Will it hamper the reporting and/or analyzing atheltics (I refer to the
sports strangely named track and filed in teh USA and Canada) if we
resorted to just accepting and respecting Hamilton-Favor's explanation of
what she went through, and accept her reasoning why she will/will not
participat
Walt wrote:
> I assume you're talking about the call by NBC's Charlie Jonesit was
> magnificent! Lots of "bigwigs" made it into the NBC booth for the
> Johnson-Lewis race that night. And the only other time I've felt such
> electricity in a stadium was last year, when Cathy Freeman won the 4
In a message dated Mon, 20 Aug 2001 2:09:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "malmo"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Rono DID run 13:20-some-odd-seconds in a driving blizzard in Pullman -- a feat
> which hasn't yet been matched.>
i know i've mentioned this on the list before, but i'm no longer impresse
In a message dated 8/21/01 7:12:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< And the call of the race was one for
the ages ... Simply wonderful >>
I assume you're talking about the call by NBC's Charlie Jonesit was
magnificent! Lots of "bigwigs" made it into the NBC booth for the
Johnson-Lewi
Apparently the low altitude of Edmonton hinders performance:
Kenyan Champs-Nairobi
10,000 METERS EL: 1700m
MEN
1 Charles Kamathi Police 27:47.33
2 John Korir AForces 27:49.34
3 Paul Kosgei Nairobi 27:51.87
Edmonton
Of
In a message dated Tue, 21 Aug 2001 6:01:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Conway"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I believe Lewis was ranked #1 in 88 even with Ben's race as that was Ben's only
>race .. I could be wrong .. Guess I should go check .>>
at the risk of flogging the T&FN website twice
--- Alan Shank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We had the same problem in the stadium. There are so many countries
> competing now that there are bound to be a lot of similar uniforms.
The challenge as I saw it was distinguishing countries with similar
uniforms when the bib numbers covered the major
In a message dated Tue, 21 Aug 2001 6:37:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Fred Finke"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > "I told you a couple of years ago that I ran a little" ) His name? Quentin
> Brelsford, 1946 NCAA XC champion.>>
also a decent track runner: 3rd in the NCAA mile as a soph (Ohio
Kebba wrote:
> They didn't consider his Oly race in the world rankings. Not that they
> should have. but if they had Ben would've been number one most likely.
>
> Carl ran 9.96, 9.96, 9.78w at the trials (he became the first to ever go
> sub-10 in prelim rounds). He then ran a few 9.97's or so be
>I believe Lewis was ranked #1 in 88 even with Ben's race as that was Ben's
>only race .. I could be wrong .. Guess I should go check .. But I thought
>Ben wasn't very highly ranked that year for some reason ..
>
>Conway Hill
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They didn't consider his Oly race in the world rank
Hi. Fred Finke Here.
My volunteer assistant coach is the son of another big player that was in
this race (and by the way the father (in his 80's) is still around and one
of the greatest and most modest men I have ever known. In fact my HS team
ran from his house for 10 years and he never
These $100,000 uniforms sound like $500 hammers the military buys.
Phil Pinkowsky
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GH wrote:
>
> To save efforts for all those w/ pointy little heads, note that if you go
to the Edmonton Preview section of the T&FN website you can find complete
seasonal records (pre-Edmonton) for all the leading contenders in all
events. Here's the relevant Montgomery portion:
>
> 09.96w 1-
Kebba wrote:
> What about Boldon in 97 and Fredericks in 96. Ashford in '88, Lewis in '88
> (i'm a Lewis fan so I understand Ben was dq'ed.. but it fits into the same
> mold).
I believe Lewis was ranked #1 in 88 even with Ben's race as that was Ben's
only race .. I could be wrong .. Guess I shou
More to the point, there is an effect on distance races at 2100' altitude
(Edmonton). The air pressure is only about 91% of the pressure at "sea
level" (on average) which means the partial pressure of Oxygen is only 91%
what it is at sea level. Air pressure/partial pressure of oxygen definitely
In a message dated Tue, 21 Aug 2001 5:04:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Mcewen, Brian
T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
> This is all off the top of my pointy head ... so forgive any errors.
>
> Reading the August TaFnews over the weekend and checking Zurich results
> online (almost at the s
Brian wrote:
> This is all off the top of my pointy head ... so forgive any errors.
>
> Reading the August TaFnews over the weekend and checking Zurich results
> online (almost at the same time), I noticed that Tim Montgomery had
> completed something close to this:
>
> Modesto? 9.96? win
> other
In a message dated 8/21/01 3:17:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Greene (ignoring the Prefontaine debacle) and Bucher both undefeated gold
medalists, with significant impact on the all-time list. Should be verry
close. (note that 100 and 800 aren't GP events this year, so GP Final not a
>From: "Mcewen, Brian T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Mcewen, Brian T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Track Posts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: t-and-f: Montgomery comes to the fore
>Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 16:59:16 -0400
>This is all off the top of my pointy head ... so forgive any errors.
>
>Reading
This is all off the top of my pointy head ... so forgive any errors.
Reading the August TaFnews over the weekend and checking Zurich results
online (almost at the same time), I noticed that Tim Montgomery had
completed something close to this:
Modesto?9.96? win
other
(This is forwarded for Ed Grant)
The death of Herman Goffberg recalls an interesting story about his
qualification for the 1948 Olympic team.
The 10K qualifying race that year was held as part of the
National AAU meet in Milwaukee. This was done to allow the top distance
As much as I am a sprint fan, I would think that the more distance oriented
types would be more impressed with Bucher's sub 1:43's than with Mo's 9.90's
and sub 9.90's ... Even though Mo's races are intrinsically better (#3 100
time vs #17 800 time for Bucher - still #1 vs moving to #5 for Bucher)
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Montgomery named USATF Athlete of the Week
INDIANAPOLIS - Tim Montg
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>
> ps--I recall that Norpoth and Michel Jazy staged some epic tactical duels in
>European Cup competition, where team points were all that mattered. I think there was
>once a race where they ran close to 15:00, with the last 800 in about 1:52.
I can't verify this, but
Oleg Shpyrko wrote:
> But the same (even worse) thing happened in Edmonton - Kenya and Morocco had
>similarly
> designed uniforms - Kenyans red front/green back and Moroccans the other way around:
>green front/red back.
> So when they showed steeple it seemed like the green and red guys would sw
Inspired by all the discussion about what Paula Radcliffe should/could
have done differently to win a medal in Edmonton, I decided to go back
over all her races in WC or OG competition.
After running the 3000 at the '91 European Juniors and '92 World Juniors
(4th both times), Radcliffe made her M
Any idea's on where to get start lists for the meet? I have a woman PV'er
there and would like to find out who she is jumping against.
Thanks,
Rick Baggett
<<<
Cripes Randall, isn't it a bit arrogant to imply that North Americans are
typically arrogant? Couldn't you just have asked for clarification?
David Andersen
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>>>
Randall has made it clear many times before that Americans are:
Cell phone talking ...
fast food eatin' ...
arr
Coming out of Edmonton, I would say there were three decent candidates for men's
Athlete Of The Year: Greene, Bucher and Zelezny. Loss in Zürich effectively takes
Z-man out of the picture.
Greene (ignoring the Prefontaine debacle) and Bucher both undefeated gold medalists,
with significant imp
Speaking of the uniforms. A lot of people critisized blue front/red back uniforms
US athletes wore in Sydney because it was often difficult to tell runners apart
because the color of the shirt would change once the camera angles change.
I remember watching MJ running 400 and as the camera switched
Malmo:
Are you saying Suzy is doing "The Time Warp?" ...It's just
a step to the left.
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Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 23:01:00 -0400
From: "malmo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: t-and-f: "I'm a hypoglycemic, hypochondriac, transsexual,
transvestite fro
http://www.review.com/college/rankingsparties.cfm?menuID=0&search=1
for all kinds of college rankings, including the selection of Tennessee as the
nation's No. 1 party school? (when are the nationals in Knoxville again?)
gh
In a message dated Tue, 21 Aug 2001 1:01:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Dan Kaplan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Monday's Linz GP results
> >
> > 200-1, Shawn Crawford, United States, 20.46. 2, Kevin Little, United
> > States, 20.57. 3, Jake Jenson, United States, 20.79.
>
> This is getting r
> In a message dated Tue, 21 Aug 2001 12:19:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Ed
& Dana Parrot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > > We could debate endlessly how much, if any, effect on performance
there is at this low altitude, but it would undoubtedly be small enough that
unless someone attempted run
P.F.Talbot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Isn't this suspicion due to various governing bodies catching people
> from time to time? When was the last time anyone really thought about
> drug use in major sports? It's certainly higher than in track and
> field but people don't seem to care. Mark M
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>--- Wilmar Kortleever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> What I saw on television (thanks again to Eurosport) conditions were far
>> from good (pooring rain), at least for some part of this meet.
>
>Was the 200 the only event affected? The other times seemed much mo
In a message dated Tue, 21 Aug 2001 12:10:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Steve Grathwohl
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The guy whose hematocrit I want to know about is Reinhold Messner, the first man to
>climb
> Everest without supplemental oxygen. In fact, I would rate his *solo* climb of
>Eve
In a message dated Tue, 21 Aug 2001 12:19:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Ed & Dana
Parrot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > We could debate endlessly how much, if any, effect on performance there is at this
>low altitude, but it would undoubtedly be small enough that unless someone attempted
>run
Ralf asked:
> For pure curiosity, how did he disguise as a German?
> Leather shorts and hat with feather?
He wore a fake mustache and a T-shirt with a German flag on the front. I
don't remember whether he also had a hat.
Kurt Bray
_
Agreed. Reinhold Messner is an amazing individual.
In addition to solo'ing Everest, he was also the first man to climb all
8000m peaks (14 of them) in the world WITHOUT supplemental oxygen (to this
day only 4 more have done it). He was also the second man to climb to the
highest point on every
>Which Suzy is this?
I guess if you had to ask, the message wasn't meant for you. ;-)
But as far as I know Suzy Favor-Hamilton is the only person in big time
track who goes by "Suzy". If someone had referred to simply "Hicham" would
you have reacted as indignantly?
Kurt (Bray)
At 04:24 AM 8/21/01 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Netters
>
>Ed & Dana Parrot writes:
>
>
> > However, if a physical adaptation DOES occur, then it stands to
> reason >that even with adaptation the times will be slower for distance
> runners.
>
>There is no biological impetus for acclimatizat
> > There is NO effect on performance in either the sprints or distances at
2000 feet. The Air pressure is essentialy the same.>
>
> The boffins who created the wind/altitude-aid charts for our Big Green
Book maintain that 800m of altitude >>(c2400ft) is worth 0.03 seconds in the
100 in still ai
Normally I don't spend much, if any, time looking at the IAAF Rankings.
But for some reason, one of them jumped off the page at me last week during
the Zurich meeting.
Here I was, looking at the stellar accomplishments of 800-meter runner
David Kiptoo of Kenya, who ran as David Singoei when a st
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Discus thrower carries the torch for Team USA
BEIJING - If the United States wanted maximum visibility with its
torchbearer for Tu
In a message dated Tue, 21 Aug 2001 9:09:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>Norpoth was a sit and kicker and ran down Pre a number of times during their
>meetings. Supposedly he ran most of his runs at 7-8 mins per mile with a very little
>race pace work done once a day.>
--- Wilmar Kortleever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What I saw on television (thanks again to Eurosport) conditions were far
> from good (pooring rain), at least for some part of this meet.
Was the 200 the only event affected? The other times seemed much more
respectable. Make that, the other ti
In a message dated Tue, 21 Aug 2001 12:14:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> There is NO effect on performance in either the sprints or distances at 2000 feet.
>The Air pressure is essentialy the same.>
The boffins who created the wind/altitude-aid charts for our Big G
What about the USA team uniforms A few barbs were directed at
Masback in Edmonton in respect to the "color" of the the uniforms. "Hard
to distinguish in non-lane races, which athletes are from the USA!"
Masback informed the "die-hard" fans that Nike spent over $100, 000 on
the design. May
I think he was the coach of Franz Josef Kemper also who
ran around 1:45 (and maybe under) for 800m. Norpoth was a sit and kicker and ran down
Pre a number of times during their meetings. Supposedly he ran most of his runs at 7-8
mins per mile with a very little race pace work done once a day.
Eberstadt, 19 Aug
HJ: 1. Voronin RUS 2.37, 2. Boswell CAN 2.33, 3. Rybakov RUS
+ Kreissig + Sotomayor CUB 2.30, 6. Klyugin RUS 2.27, 7. Holm
SWE 2.27, 8. Boateng CAN 2.24, 9. Buss 2.24
Winfried Kramer
Kohlrodweg 12
66539 Neunkirchen/Germany
Association of Track & Field Statisticians
E
Alan Shank wrote:
>
> Steve Bennett wrote:
> >
> > If you want to train to run good times over 1500 -1m
> > but never win major
> > races do the following.
> >
> > 1. Do lots of long slow distance training.160km a week plus.
>
> IIRC, Harald Norpoth, who was a deadly finisher,
> was coached
Dan Kaplan schreef:
> > Monday's Linz GP results
> > 200-1, Shawn Crawford, United States, 20.46. 2, Kevin Little, United
> States, 20.57. 3, Jake Jenson, United States, 20.79.
> This is getting ridiculous. We may need to send the Texas high schoolers
> over there to shake things up!
> Dan
What
This is not totally accurate but right now I do not have the time to
elaborate.
This is not the case of steroids used for quicker recovery.
UG
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Miguel wrote:
>
> And please spare me the effects of a lifetime of drug
> taking. Many drugs help us and nobody is thinking twice
> about taking them when they need. The Florence Joyner
> case happened because she took way too many drugs without
> any proper medical control. I don't see the s
Uri Goldbourt wrote:
> Apparently, Yegorva won in both Edmonton and Zurich EPO-free
> and Epo's effects don't last beyond a few days. Has it
> occurred to us that she must have some ability even withoput
> the boost of EPO?
I think it is pretty obvious that training and preparations
with EPO
Kurt Bray wrote:
>
> Tonight on "The Simpsons":
>
> Homer enters the Springfield Marathon and gets so
> dehydrated during the race that he is mistaken for
> Grandpa. Late in the race an athlete from Australia
> and one from Djibouti are dueling for the lead.
Obviously the story-writer saw
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