Re: t-and-f: U.S. World Championships Team

Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Does Pate have the "A" standard? < Yes.

t-and-f: U.S. World Championships Team

Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >800 - x-David Krummenacker, Derrick Peterson, x-Jesse Strutzel. 1,500 - x-Andy Downin, x-Seneca Lassiter, x-Paul McMullen. 3,000 Steeplechase - Thomas Chorny, Anthony Famiglietti, Tim Broe. 5,000 - Bob Kennedy, Adam Goucher, x-Matt Lane.

Re: t-and-f: Trivia answer

Message text written by "Michael Contopoulos" >Question, other than Rich Kenah finishing 3rd in both the indoor and outdoor WCs in 97, have we had anyone finish higher than Brandon Rock's 5th place at a major Champs since 1995 (or at all in the 90s) 800 on up? < Yes. Regina Jacobs. Also Tim

Re: t-and-f: NCAA & USATF Champs in Same City

Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >In 1972 the NCAA and Olympic Trials were both held in Eugene (although remember that the Olympic Trials were not the National Championships at that time).< Remember, too, that both of those meets were men-only at that time.

Re: T&F Fw: t-and-f: Pole vault question

Message text written by Ed & Dana Parrot >Perhaps Bob Hersh or someone else could correct me, but I doubt a record would be disallowed simply because a "five alive" situation was used.< I can neither correct you nor confirm that a record would be allowed if that occurred. It's one of those thing

Re: T&F Fw: t-and-f: Pole vault question

Message text written by David Dallman > Points in favour, points against, but is it in accordance with the rules? What would happen if a record was set?< It's in accordance with NCAA rules. USATF permits this in qualification competition and in finals with more than 15 competitors (and then on

Re: t-and-f: Howard and Clark

Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >I am sitting here with a Drug Classification list from the Canadian Centre for Ethics in Sport (can be found on their website as well), which not only lists the banned drugs in each therapeutic class, but gives a very large number of "Examples

Re: t-and-f: Oxy Invitational

Message text written by Randy Treadway >Anybody know if he is contemplating a 'move up' to the 3-and-a-half lapper at nationals in Eugene? < I don't think they're running a 1,400 in Eugene.

Re: t-and-f: Promotion of nationals on the backs of the stars...

Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > He does not have to "compete," all he has to do is participate in one event. That means he can jog a lap waving to the fans, and viola, he has his wild card.< But he wants to be on the Edmonton team with no strings attached at all.

t-and-f: IAAF Elections ("Four candidates")

Message text written by Roger Ruth >Since all members of the Council are elected for four-year terms, it might be possible to arrive at some approximation of this information through the "Structure" links on the website, but the question would remain of which members who are concluding a four-year

Re: t-and-f: inaccurate consistency (hand timing)

Message text written by "Ed Prytherch" >The popular SPRINT EIGHT timer can be started by a transducer that is attached to the gun. How would you classify performances that are timed with this system, hand or FAT ?< If it's stopped by hand, it's hand timing. The times won't be as short as times t

Re: t-and-f: inaccurate consistency (hand timing)

Message text written by Dan Kaplan >That's what I meant when I said the method of hand timing actually makes a bit more sense. The hand time starts at the smoke from the gun, which in most cases should be exactly the same time as the athlete reacts to the sound of the gun. The hand time stops as

t-and-f: inaccurate consistency (hand timing)

Message text written by Dan Kaplan >So, if the idea that hand times can become more accurate with practice catches on, it seems the concept of FAT conversions would need to be revisited.< And I'm sure it will be. But you should know that the idea that you're referring to has been around for deca

Re: t-and-f: Epilogue

Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >but your outcome in the lab is not to defer to idiots...however in the great council of the iaaf, who votes -. . ...the fat, lobster-eating old men.< Watch your generalizations, Louise. Quite a few of the men are thin. Two of th

Re: t-and-f: New rules

Message text written by Ed & Dana Parrot > In no other major American sport will an athlete be kicked out in the beginning of the competition for anything other than unsportsmanlike conduct.< How about college track? The NCAA has been doing it that way for more than two decades.

Re: t-and-f: Creating Good Distance runners in the US

Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Tell that to the Greeks, Arabs (al-jabr=algebra) and Indians who provided the footings for advanced mathematics. And I note that we do Euclidian geometry, not Svenian geometry. < You're right, of course. At the time I was "taught" this by my f

Re: t-and-f: German suspensions

Message text written by Roger Ruth >I believe he wrote that the IAAF hasn't had a contamination rule for the last decade, but it might only have been to the effect that the IAAF hadn't tried to enforce the rule since the Butch Reynolds case. < I don't know who "he" was or what he said, but neithe

t-and-f: T&F professionalism

Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > track fans are a stingy lot...< Unlike seismologists, who are generous to a fault.

NFLE ( was Re: t-and-f: Imperialist )

Message text written by Dirk Wagner >The field at Waldstadion is not 120m long ;-) It would be very difficult to have an 400m track around such a field.< No, but it would be easy to use a 100m field for American football. Just put the goal posts on the goal line, instead of 10m behind the goal l

FW: t-and-f: women's 4 x 200 meters relay record

Message text written by "Highfill, Floyd" >If the apparent violation occured on the straightaway(?) and there was no interference with another team, "no disqualification shall be called".< And it's my understanding that that's where the "apparent violation" took place. This can happen at Penn be

t-and-f: Athens Changes Track, Field Schedule; NBC Pleased

Message text written by "Sahu Habibi" >"This time (1900 GMT) is prime time for Greece, it's also prime time in Europe and lunchbreak in the United States," the ATHOC source said. < Well, in parts of the United States this is true, but in the Eastern time zone, 1900 GMT is 3 in the afternoon. Tha

t-and-f: Etiquette vs. Rules

Message text written by Margaret & Robert Tatar >If you're about to be lapped in a race, is it a requirement to move out a lane, or is it just the polite thing to do?< It's the latter, not the former.

Re: t-and-f: The storm by the numbers

Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >The benefit I have in ranking their rankings is that I have a general idea of why they did what they did because they tell us. The athletes are not afforded that opportunity, judge and jury, are neither their peers, nor are they asked why.<

RE: t-and-f: The Breakfast Awards

Message text written by "Fred Finke" >I am a little curious as to the statement that LDR has three running committees. What are you talking about? I am only aware of one men's LDR committee.< There's also a Women's LDR Committee and a Masters LDR Committee. That makes three.

t-and-f: Re: Not EVERYONE is doping

Message text written by Richard McCann >I think this whole discussion is best terminated at this point. < Amen!

t-and-f: Chainsaws

Message text written by "malmo" >Ever play the game CLUE? (God forbid you'd ever let your child play that game with the morbid theme of murder and all!) There's a reason why none of the weapons is a chainsaw. A chainsaw makes a very poor murder weapon. It's heavy, it smokes, it's very loud, it's c

Re: t-and-f: American exuberance

Message text written by "Conway" >Some have denigrated the way they sang the national anthem .< My e-mail was down over the weekend, and I must have missed something. What was it about the way they sang the national anthem that people objected to? Bob H [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: Athletes 'can beat EPO testing'

Message text written by "Ed & Dana Parrot" >in the U.S. if USATF conducts extra tests on certain athletes based on something that is not reliable enough to stand up in court, they will be the recipient of a @!## lawsuit.< Fear not. USATF's doping regulations do not give the organization the auth

re: t-and-f: Brussels 10k

Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >. . .IAAF rule requiring lap scorers in the long races and specifying that no lap scorer was supposed to be responsible for more than 3 runners?< It's four, not three. (IAAF Rule 130.1) The same specification is found in the USATF rules. ( U

RE: t-and-f: Austrailian continental marks

Message text written by "THOMAS,Graham" >41.30 WR GDR 4x100< 41.37

Re: (fwd) t-and-f: ITA NR for Rosolen at Avezzano

Message text written by "R.T." >Since when are athletes allowed six throws when they don't get a recorded mark in their first three? Or is the standard in Italy to report the 6th round first, then the 5th, etc. ? Petrucci ought to request an inquiry before her NR is officially wiped off the book

Re: t-and-f: Why is Mike so Afraid? - the 19.66 ratification conundrum

Message text written by "A.J. Craddock" >Was there in fact a "problem" with this mark that needed much back-room negotiation to sort out (during an interregnum period at USATF's helm)? One wonders. < You can wonder all you want, but there's nothing to wonder about. There was absolutely no prob

t-and-f: Oslo TV

Walt Murphy just asked me to remind the list that the Bislett telecast will be on ESPN2 this evening (Friday) from 7:30 to 9:00 Eastern time. Bob H

Re: t-and-f: Americans competing for other countries in the Olympics.

Message text written by "P.F.Talbot" >There may be an IAAF rule however saying that you can only be selected for one team and cannot go through more than one selection process. Anyone know?< Yes, I know. No, there is not. (Obviously, True can compete for only one country in Sydney. Once he ha