Re: [Tagging] Zone 30 (maxspeed)

2010-07-06 Thread Colin Smale
On 06/07/2010 21:02, Ulf Lamping wrote: Am 06.07.2010 20:38, schrieb Colin Smale: On 06/07/2010 18:44, Richard Mann wrote: I'm not really clear what is the value of tagging a "zone", except in a note. Why not just use the standard maxspeed tag? +1 Here in NL it warns you that the given road

Re: [Tagging] Zone 30 (maxspeed)

2010-07-06 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 06.07.2010 20:38, schrieb Colin Smale: On 06/07/2010 18:44, Richard Mann wrote: I'm not really clear what is the value of tagging a "zone", except in a note. Why not just use the standard maxspeed tag? +1 Here in NL it warns you that the given road sign (could be maxspeed, could be some ot

Re: [Tagging] Zone 30 (maxspeed)

2010-07-06 Thread John Smith
On 7 July 2010 04:38, Colin Smale wrote: > It sure would make life easier if you could just draw a (temporary) polygon > and get Potlatch to set maxspeed=20 on all enclosed roads though... You can kind of do it in JOSM, at least for square polygons, then you just do a search for "highway=resident

Re: [Tagging] Zone 30 (maxspeed)

2010-07-06 Thread Colin Smale
On 06/07/2010 18:44, Richard Mann wrote: I'm not really clear what is the value of tagging a "zone", except in a note. Why not just use the standard maxspeed tag? +1 Here in NL it warns you that the given road sign (could be maxspeed, could be some other restriction) is valid "until further

Re: [Tagging] Zone 30 (maxspeed)

2010-07-06 Thread John Smith
On 7 July 2010 03:50, André Riedel wrote: > It would be great if we find a solution to tag urban and rural > streets, zones of maxspeed 30 or 20, traffic-reduced residential > streets (livingstreets), ... zone might fit, but it doesn't tell you anything about restrictions, if you are interested i

Re: [Tagging] Zone 30 (maxspeed)

2010-07-06 Thread André Riedel
2010/7/6 Sebastian Klein : > -- --- > 944    zone:maxspeed=DE:30 > 631    zone:traffic=DE:30 > 516    source:maxspeed=traffic_zone > 433    source:maxspeed=DE:zone30 > 152    zone:speed=30 > 140    maxspeed:zone=yes >  40    source:maxspeed=zone30 2182 maxspeed:note=* 29maxspeed:reason=zone

Re: [Tagging] Zone 30 (maxspeed)

2010-07-06 Thread Richard Mann
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 6:01 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2010/7/6 Richard Mann : > >> maxspeed=20 mph+maxspeed:note=Oxford 20 mph zone > > > I'd suggest to use source:maxspeed instead of note, as I think it is > already widely used and documented in the wiki: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wi

Re: [Tagging] Zone 30 (maxspeed)

2010-07-06 Thread John Smith
On 7 July 2010 03:34, Ben Laenen wrote: > If in Belgium these school zone 30's are time limited they're signed by signs > that turn on and off (there's nothing telling when they turn on exactly). It's > also a challenge to tag those... You can only use maxspeed=variable on these > roads. Those wo

Re: [Tagging] Zone 30 (maxspeed)

2010-07-06 Thread Ben Laenen
John Smith wrote: > On 7 July 2010 03:10, Ben Laenen wrote: > > btw, I created the maxspeed:zone= tag because it (a) allows extension to > > a few other zonal restrictions (no parking zone etc), and (b) allows > > extra values like "school". > > I spent a bit of time on school zones a while back,

Re: [Tagging] Zone 30 (maxspeed)

2010-07-06 Thread John Smith
On 7 July 2010 03:10, Ben Laenen wrote: > btw, I created the maxspeed:zone= tag because it (a) allows extension to a few > other zonal restrictions (no parking zone etc), and (b) allows extra values > like "school". I spent a bit of time on school zones a while back, here they are time limited, s

Re: [Tagging] Zone 30 (maxspeed)

2010-07-06 Thread Ben Laenen
Sebastian Klein wrote: > usages tag > -- --- > 944zone:maxspeed=DE:30 > 631zone:traffic=DE:30 > 516source:maxspeed=traffic_zone > 433source:maxspeed=DE:zone30 > 152zone:speed=30 > 140maxspeed:zone=yes > 40source:maxspeed=zone30 Also add maxspeed:zone=school for a

Re: [Tagging] Zone 30 (maxspeed)

2010-07-06 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/7/6 Richard Mann : > maxspeed=20 mph+maxspeed:note=Oxford 20 mph zone I'd suggest to use source:maxspeed instead of note, as I think it is already widely used and documented in the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:source:maxspeed You could adopt the scheme and add your definiti

Re: [Tagging] Zone 30 (maxspeed)

2010-07-06 Thread Richard Mann
The fashion in the UK is now to impose 20mph speed limits on each and every street, rather than create zones with entries/exits. It amounts to much the same thing in the end, but it means that we simply put: maxspeed=20 mph+maxspeed:note=Oxford 20 mph zone (the whole city is a 20mph zone except f

Re: [Tagging] Zone 30 (maxspeed)

2010-07-06 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/7/6 Sebastian Klein : > -- --- > 944    zone:maxspeed=DE:30 > 631    zone:traffic=DE:30 > 516    source:maxspeed=traffic_zone > 433    source:maxspeed=DE:zone30 > 152    zone:speed=30 > 140    maxspeed:zone=yes >  40    source:maxspeed=zone30 > > So which one to choose? Certainly there is

[Tagging] Zone 30 (maxspeed)

2010-07-06 Thread Sebastian Klein
Hi, there seems to be some inconsistency, how to tag a traffic zone with maximum speed limited to 30 km/h (German "Tempo-30-Zone"). [1] Tagwatch has the following tags for Europe (with maxspeed=30): [2] usages tag -- --- 944zone:maxspeed=DE:30 631zone:traffic=DE:30 516source:maxs