[Tagging] sorry about the multiple messages

2014-02-03 Thread John F. Eldredge
I am not sure what produced the multiple copies of that earlier message, since I only sent it once, but I apologize for the inconvenience. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bag shop, pet shop

2014-02-03 Thread John F. Eldredge
On 02/03/2014 11:02 AM, Matthijs Melissen wrote: On 2 February 2014 23:34, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2014-02-01 Matthijs Melissen : That's a good point. How would you distinguish between a bag shop and a leather shop? I'd use bag shop if they only or mostly sold bags and leather shop if oth

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bag shop, pet shop

2014-02-03 Thread John F. Eldredge
On 02/03/2014 10:52 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2014-02-03 John F. Eldredge >: How would you tag a shop that specialized in non-leather bags, such as woven cloth? Some vegans choose not to use items made of leather. If it's a shop for bags it is al

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bag shop, pet shop

2014-02-03 Thread John F. Eldredge
On 02/03/2014 10:31 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote: On February 2, 2014 5:34:36 PM CST, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2014-02-01 Matthijs Melissen mailto:i...@matthijsmelissen.nl>>: That's a good point. How would you distinguish between a bag shop and a leather shop?

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an imaginary oneway barrier

2014-02-03 Thread Richard Welty
On 2/3/14 6:36 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > When this is done in the USA, the usual case seems to be an entry > restriction on one end of the street. > Why would anything more complicated than an entry restriction be > required in OSM? > Typically it is a sign reading "Do not enter" with a sub-shield

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an imaginary oneway barrier

2014-02-03 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
When this is done in the USA, the usual case seems to be an entry restriction on one end of the street. Why would anything more complicated than an entry restriction be required in OSM? Typically it is a sign reading "Do not enter" with a sub-shield that may read "Except bikes and buses". A person

Re: [Tagging] Canal banks

2014-02-03 Thread Richard Z.
On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 03:13:23PM +0100, Janko Mihelić wrote: > 2014-02-03 Dave F. : > > > > > A user has recently amended them all to natural=water & water=canal. Is > > there a specific reason for this? Does it correct any problems or give any > > advantages for rendering etc? > > > > Users ma

Re: [Tagging] Canal banks

2014-02-03 Thread SomeoneElse
Christoph Hormann wrote: And you forget >4.5 million natural=water without any water=* of which quite a lot could be riverbanks. Most of those will just be random imports though, won't they? Until someone even has a look at an aerial, it's difficult to say much about them. Cheers, Andy _

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bag shop, pet shop

2014-02-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-02-03 Matthijs Melissen : > What about a shop like this? > http://www.lesgrandsboulevards.fr/img/enseignes/P102036412-05-28.JPG > > They sell mainly bags, both leather and non-leather, but also sell > some wallets (on the counter) and belts (next to the counter). > > How would you tag this sh

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bag shop, pet shop

2014-02-03 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 2 February 2014 23:34, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2014-02-01 Matthijs Melissen : > >> That's a good point. How would you distinguish between a bag shop and >> a leather shop? > > I'd use bag shop if they only or mostly sold bags and leather shop if other > items like belts, gloves, purses w

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bag shop, pet shop

2014-02-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-02-03 John F. Eldredge : > How would you tag a shop that specialized in non-leather bags, such as > woven cloth? Some vegans choose not to use items made of leather. > If it's a shop for bags it is already a bag shop, I guess you wanted to ask: "how would you tag a shop that offers stuff li

Re: [Tagging] Canal banks

2014-02-03 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Monday 03 February 2014, Pieren wrote: > > waterway=riverbank: 260,000 instances > > water=canal:2400 instances > > You forgot water=river (5000 instances) And you forget >4.5 million natural=water without any water=* of which quite a lot could be riverbanks. One of the problems with waterbod

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bag shop, pet shop

2014-02-03 Thread John F. Eldredge
On February 2, 2014 5:34:36 PM CST, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2014-02-01 Matthijs Melissen : > > > That's a good point. How would you distinguish between a bag shop > and > > a leather shop? > > > > > > I'd use bag shop if they only or mostly sold bags and leather shop if > other > items l

Re: [Tagging] Canal banks

2014-02-03 Thread Pieren
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Malcolm Herring wrote: > waterway=riverbank: 260,000 instances > water=canal:2400 instances You forgot water=river (5000 instances) It's true that the water=* proposal never went to its conclusion : deprecate "riverbank" officially in the wiki, something decided

Re: [Tagging] Canal banks

2014-02-03 Thread Malcolm Herring
On 03/02/2014 14:34, Janko Mihelić wrote: There wasn't a vote on deprecating riverbank, and it probably wouldn't have passed. waterway=riverbank: 260,000 instances water=canal:2400 instances I would suggest that the latter be deprecated, especially as the former is documented on the main map

Re: [Tagging] Canal banks

2014-02-03 Thread Janko Mihelić
2014-02-03 Dave F. : > Thanks for that (& to Christoph). So, is waterway=riverbank is being > deprecated as well? > > No, there's just two ways to tag a riverbank. There wasn't a vote on deprecating riverbank, and it probably wouldn't have passed. Janko __

Re: [Tagging] Canal banks

2014-02-03 Thread Dave F.
Thanks for that (& to Christoph). So, is waterway=riverbank is being deprecated as well? Dave F. On 03/02/2014 14:13, Janko Mihelic' wrote: 2014-02-03 Dave F. >: A user has recently amended them all to natural=water & water=canal. Is there a specific re

Re: [Tagging] Canal banks

2014-02-03 Thread Janko Mihelić
2014-02-03 Dave F. : > > A user has recently amended them all to natural=water & water=canal. Is > there a specific reason for this? Does it correct any problems or give any > advantages for rendering etc? > Users mapping is correct, according to the new approved proposal: https://wiki.openstree

Re: [Tagging] Canal banks

2014-02-03 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Monday 03 February 2014, Dave F. wrote: > > When mapping canals I've always drawn a closed polygon & used the tag > waterway=riverbank when I've wanted to give them width. This is as > per the wiki recommendation: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:waterway%3Dcanal. > > A user has recently

[Tagging] Canal banks

2014-02-03 Thread Dave F.
Hi When mapping canals I've always drawn a closed polygon & used the tag waterway=riverbank when I've wanted to give them width. This is as per the wiki recommendation: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:waterway%3Dcanal. A user has recently amended them all to natural=water & water=cana