Re: [Tagging] No abbreviations in names edge case

2014-06-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-06-20 0:56 GMT+02:00 Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com: Of course I could bring up the fact that FDR Drive in NYC is spelled FDR Drive and F.D.R. Drive, and F D R Drive, depending on which sign you look at. :) yes, actually it is more common than one would expect, to have different

[Tagging] man_made=pipeline - is onewayness implied?

2014-06-20 Thread bulwersator
According to iD editor man_made=pipeline implies oneway=yes in the direction of way[1]. It is imho a bad idea, because - it is not mentioned on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dpipeline - direction of pipeline may be hard (I mapped some and in every case direction was unknown)

Re: [Tagging] man_made=pipeline - is onewayness implied?

2014-06-20 Thread François Lacombe
+1 Additionally, have a look to Rfuegen's proposal to improve pipelines maping. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/PipelineExtension *François Lacombe* francois dot lacombe At telecom-bretagne dot eu http://www.infos-reseaux.com 2014-06-20 12:49 GMT+02:00 bulwersator

Re: [Tagging] man_made=pipeline - is onewayness implied?

2014-06-20 Thread Bryan Housel
Hi, I’m the one who introduced this change. I’m happy to roll it back if needed. I think I added pipeline to the list of tags that imply onewayness because of discussion here: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Underground-Pipelines-td5376988.html Users can still explicitly tag pipelines as

Re: [Tagging] man_made=pipeline - is onewayness implied?

2014-06-20 Thread Bryan Housel
Also, It does say here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/PipelineExtension#Pipelines direction: the medium inside a pipeline usually flows in one direction only. make sure the direction of the man_made=pipeline way matches the direction of the flow of the medium. So my

Re: [Tagging] man_made=pipeline - is onewayness implied?

2014-06-20 Thread bulwersator
How I should tag pipelines with unknown direction? On Fri, 20 Jun 2014 05:32:13 -0700 lt;bgt;Bryan Housel lt;br...@7thposition.comgt;lt;/bgt; wrote Hi, I’m the one who introduced this change. I’m happy to roll it back if needed. I think I added pipeline to the list of tags that

Re: [Tagging] No abbreviations in names edge case

2014-06-20 Thread fly
Am 20.06.2014 11:09, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: 2014-06-20 0:56 GMT+02:00 Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com mailto:emac...@gmail.com: Of course I could bring up the fact that FDR Drive in NYC is spelled FDR Drive and F.D.R. Drive, and F D R Drive, depending on which sign

Re: [Tagging] man_made=pipeline - is onewayness implied?

2014-06-20 Thread fly
Flowing direction does not really work with waterway especially waterway=canal and it will not work with pipelines. Better use an own tag like flow_direction=forward/backward/both/none or similar. This way we will cover all three cases mentioned below. cu fly Am 20.06.2014 15:04, schrieb Bryan

[Tagging] roles for route=hiking/foot

2014-06-20 Thread fly
Hey As there was a small thread about themed and educational walking trails on the German mailing list I had a closer look at the wiki. I was wondering if it is ok to add a new roles for route=hiking to add the art_work or information boards and use route=hiking with an additional tag or better

[Tagging] man_made=pipeline - is onewayness implied?

2014-06-20 Thread Rob Nickerson
There's no onewayness for natural gas pipelines. They may have a prevailing direction, but the direction of flow is not determined by the pipe. It's determined by the pressure differential (gas will flow from high to low pressure) and this can be changed via use of compressor stations. A natural

Re: [Tagging] man_made=pipeline - is onewayness implied?

2014-06-20 Thread Paul Johnson
I don't believe it's implied, since this situation is the same for pretty much all but the farthest outreach branches of municipal natgas and water pipes and electrical powerlines (though potential being the key there). Heck, even light rail systems are this way to some extent in many cities; I

Re: [Tagging] man_made=pipeline - is onewayness implied?

2014-06-20 Thread nounours77
Dear Bryan, Better use an own tag like flow_direction=forward/backward/both/none or similar. This way we will cover all three cases mentioned below. +1 Making oneway=yes as a default and make it automatically into the direction of flow is not a good solution: * someone might not know the