Re: [Tagging] Wiki edits on junction=roundabout

2015-02-23 Thread Martin Vonwald
As there haven't been any objections against a revert, I reverted the article now to the previous state [1] and again informed the user [2]. Hopefully he let us know what he think is unclear or missing. Best regards, Martin [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Ajunction%3Drou

Re: [Tagging] Canopy radius for natural=tree

2015-02-23 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 23.02.2015 19:09, althio wrote: > I will suggest you look into: > 145 135 diameter_crown > =* With only 30 users, that's almost certainly an import. So we should not let this dictate our tag choice if there are reasons to choose a different

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - power_supply=intermittent

2015-02-23 Thread Jan van Bekkum
The proposal has been updated to reflect the outcome of the discussion. Met vriendelijke groet/with kind regards, *Jan van Bekkum* www.DeEinderVoorbij.nl On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

2015-02-23 Thread Dave Swarthout
How about camp_site=designated, camp_site=nondesignated, camp_site=wild or free, etc.? One could expand on that with tags like camp_site=commercial also. The fee=yes/no tag takes care of the money part and access=public/private/customers the access part. On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 5:44 AM, David Ban

Re: [Tagging] Canopy radius for natural=tree

2015-02-23 Thread Colin Smale
No adjectives here... "Crown diameter" is a compound noun composed of two nouns. More likely a germanic language where the juxtaposition implies a genitive - "diameter crown" --> "diameter of the crown". Could certainly be Dutch or German - it's a very common construct. On 2015-02-23 23:22,

Re: [Tagging] Canopy radius for natural=tree

2015-02-23 Thread John F. Eldredge
True. English usually has an adjective followed by a noun. I would guess that "diameter crown" was probably written by someone more familiar with a language where adjectives follow nouns. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hat

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

2015-02-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Forget the fee. What about "official" vs. "unofficial". A campsite supported by the landowner may be fee or not. A habitually used camp spot may have a home on OSM, but should be marked as "not supported by the landowner or land manager". Same for unofficial trails.

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

2015-02-23 Thread Warin
The present tagging of camp sites can (if tagged) provide discrimination/distinction between those that charge a fee and those that don't. Jan, think more about what your trying to achieve? I don't think it is about the fee .. but about the specialisation of the site? It is going to be diffic

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

2015-02-23 Thread David Bannon
Jan, I am afraid I would have to disagree. Reading your text, the distinguishing feature seems to be the fee ? Here in Australia, there are very many camp sites, often reasonably formal ones that don't charge a fee. They typically don't provide a lot of facilities but are very popular with carava

Re: [Tagging] Canopy radius for natural=tree

2015-02-23 Thread Brad Neuhauser
"diameter crown" also doesn't appear to be vernacular English, unfortunately. "Crown diameter" or "crown spread" seem to be more widely used. For example, see http://www.treeterms.co.uk/definitions/crown-diameter, and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_crown_measurement#Crown_Spread_Methodologies

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - parking=storage: additional values for key parking

2015-02-23 Thread Warin
On 24/02/2015 4:26 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2015-02-22 0:27 GMT+01:00 John Willis >: Personally, it is confusing as all hell that some businesses that offer services for money are amenities and some are shops. I know the implication of shop is for sales

[Tagging] Canopy radius for natural=tree

2015-02-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Having seen a tiny rendered dot for a large tree, I went to add a canopy radius. Despite the rather comprehensive http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dtree there did not seem to be a tag. What would people use? radius= ? ___ Tagging mailing

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

2015-02-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
A strongly related discussion: tagging the difference between an official trail, and shortcut / use trail / squatter trail. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

2015-02-23 Thread Jan van Bekkum
Please have a look at this proposal. Regards, Jan van Bekkum ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - parking=storage: additional values for key parking

2015-02-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-02-22 0:27 GMT+01:00 John Willis : > Personally, it is confusing as all hell that some businesses that offer > services for money are amenities and some are shops. I know the implication > of shop is for sales of goods, but a restaurant sells food, and it is an > amenity. A bench is also an a

Re: [Tagging] Wiki edits on junction=roundabout

2015-02-23 Thread Volker Schmidt
On 23 February 2015 at 11:02, Martin Vonwald wrote: > I asked the user for an explanation and revert: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:Pmailkeey003 > > If he doesn't react within a reasonable time, we should revert it anyway. > Opinions? > I fully agree. Volker __

Re: [Tagging] Wiki edits on junction=roundabout

2015-02-23 Thread Tom Pfeifer
+1 To draw a circle does not need complicated explanations. Compass directions are needless in this context. Editor-specific instructions are already there. No reed to recommend the kerb with such priority. Martin Vonwald wrote on 2015-02-23 11:02: I asked the user for an explanation and revert:

Re: [Tagging] tag for portages?

2015-02-23 Thread fly
Am 22.02.2015 um 23:26 schrieb John F. Eldredge: > I think the "wooden portages" he refers to are a series of wooden > rollers one would roll the canoe along, to avoid having to carry the > full weight. Exactly, sorry for misunderstanding. Please, forget my suggestions, as I was talking about add

Re: [Tagging] Wiki edits on junction=roundabout

2015-02-23 Thread Dave Swarthout
He's trying to be helpful but has done a bad job of it. Sometimes too much information is a bad thing, especially if you don't present it in an understandable manner. My vote is that it should be reverted. On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Martin Vonwald wrote: > I asked the user for an explanat

Re: [Tagging] Wiki edits on junction=roundabout

2015-02-23 Thread Martin Vonwald
I asked the user for an explanation and revert: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:Pmailkeey003 If he doesn't react within a reasonable time, we should revert it anyway. Opinions? Best regards, Martin 2015-02-23 10:37 GMT+01:00 Philip Barnes : > I would also question the make it cir

Re: [Tagging] Wiki edits on junction=roundabout

2015-02-23 Thread Philip Barnes
I would also question the make it circular, roundabouts don't have to be circular. Phil (trigpoint ) On Mon Feb 23 07:43:36 2015 GMT, Martin Vonwald wrote: > Hi! > > Can someone please explain these edits to me: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Ajunction%3Droundabout&diff