Re: [Tagging] proposal - camp_site= Voting on the 28th

2015-04-29 Thread Warin
On 26/04/2015 10:45 AM, David Bannon wrote: OK, I think we have talked this topic just about to death. I propose to turn on voting on Tuesday, 28th April. So please, if you have some further improvements, get in now ! Thanks folks for all your help with this. Its been a great example of worryin

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-04-29 Thread Warin
On 30/04/2015 11:17 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 5:37 PM, John Willis > wrote: That sounds like “tagging for the renderer” to me. When rendering lags tagging behavior, there is that temptation. Rendering will always lag behind tagging. If tagg

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-04-29 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 5:37 PM, John Willis wrote: > That sounds like “tagging for the renderer” to me. > > When rendering lags tagging behavior, there is that temptation. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.o

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-GB] Wiki deprecation of an in-use feature

2015-04-29 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Agreed on the 'control'. But the change of the tagging status? Maybe the > tagging group (here) is a good place to start a discussion on changing the > status of a tag? And it needs to be a formal process with voting on the >

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-04-29 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Apr 29, 2015, at 4:15 PM, David Bannon wrote: > > Several months ago we were advised that a camp_site is the larger site > that contains one or (usually) more pitches. Therefore to say that a > particular instance of a camp_site is a pitch is just plain silly. > > Except, perhaps, for the

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-04-29 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Tod Fitch wrote: > > Any reason to avoid a namespace? Seems like tagging things like water > availability as amenities would show a lot of amenities that are not really > available to everyone. That is things like the picnic table, fire ring or > fire place and pos

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-04-29 Thread John Willis
> On Apr 30, 2015, at 8:11 AM, Tod Fitch wrote: > > >> I chose addr:housenumber because that's perfectly set up for routers > > That sounds like “tagging for the renderer” to me. I find it distasteful to > reuse part of the addr:* namespace for this but if it must be done then > addr:un

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-GB] Wiki deprecation of an in-use feature

2015-04-29 Thread Warin
On 29/04/2015 6:34 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Regardless: the Wiki is what's out of control. No group of mappers should have their tags yanked out from under them. Those who want to change tagging should convince the mappers involved, not just wikifiddle. Agreed on the 'control'. But the ch

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-04-29 Thread David Bannon
> tourism=camp_site (for the site) or tourism=caravan_site > camp_site=pitch Bryce, this was discussed some weeks ago. Several months ago we were advised that a camp_site is the larger site that contains one or (usually) more pitches. Therefore to say that a particular instance of a camp_

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-04-29 Thread Tod Fitch
Comments interspersed. . . > On Apr 29, 2015, at 2:57 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > > Ok, lets see if we can land this. > Existing practice varies: > > tourism=camp_site + name= > tourism=camp_site + ref= > tourism=camp_site + addr:unit= > tourism=camp_site + addr:housenumber= > camp_site=pitch + n

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-04-29 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Ok, lets see if we can land this. Existing practice varies: tourism=camp_site + name= tourism=camp_site + ref= tourism=camp_site + addr:unit= tourism=camp_site + addr:housenumber= camp_site=pitch + name= camp_site=pitch + ref= camp_site=pitch + addr:unit= camp_site=pitch+ addr:housenumber= camp_si

Re: [Tagging] Artist studio?

2015-04-29 Thread althio
I would re-use coworking_space like: amenity=coworking_space craft=artist [/photographer/sculptor/...] cheers althio On 26 April 2015 at 06:58, Dave F. wrote: > On 26/04/2015 09:02, André Pirard wrote: > > The major skill of an artist being to be inventive, be prepared for > diversity ;-) >

Re: [Tagging] [Bug] calculated shortest route wrong

2015-04-29 Thread Eric SIBERT
Paul, USENET and Mailing List posting netiquette: 4. Do not cross-post: http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php#xpost People on [tagging] may not be aware of the beginning of the discussion and other people on [osmand] may only receive a fraction of answers. Thanks Éric _

Re: [Tagging] Artist studio?

2015-04-29 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-04-27 09:59, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote : > 2015-04-26 10:02 GMT+02:00 André Pirard >: > > Are we speaking of artists or of studios? > Can't artists perform in various places, e.g. at home? > After defining artist_studio, will we define artist_h

Re: [Tagging] [Bug] calculated shortest route wrong (was: often longer than fastest route)

2015-04-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Ilpo Järvinen wrote: > On Wed, 29 Apr 2015, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:58 PM, john whelan > wrote: > > The difficulty is in many cities traffic lights are synchronised > > in such a way that cars may have to stop at the first

Re: [Tagging] [Bug] calculated shortest route wrong (was: often longer than fastest route)

2015-04-29 Thread Ilpo Järvinen
On Wed, 29 Apr 2015, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:58 PM, john whelan wrote: > The difficulty is in many cities traffic lights are synchronised > in such a way that cars may have to stop at the first but there > after if they are travelling at or close to the s

Re: [Tagging] [Bug] calculated shortest route wrong (was: often longer than fastest route)

2015-04-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:58 PM, john whelan wrote: > The difficulty is in many cities traffic lights are synchronised in such a > way that cars may have to stop at the first but there after if they are > travelling at or close to the speed limit they will not be stopped on > subsequent sets of l

Re: [Tagging] Wood+Coastline conflict

2015-04-29 Thread Janko Mihelić
sri, 29. tra 2015. 18:32 Bryce Nesbitt je napisao: In the case of a mangrove forest, it means exactly what it seems like: there is no other land type between forest and water. I think you should map a mangrove forest over the water, if tree trunks are sticking out of water. Janko _

Re: [Tagging] Wood+Coastline conflict

2015-04-29 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 6:23 AM, Erik Johansson wrote: > So are the tree trunks growing > right at the coastline, or is there a 1m-5m zone where there are no > tree trunks and you are really mapping "landcover=tree_canopy? So I've > never really figured it out exactly what it means when the coa

Re: [Tagging] Wood+Coastline conflict

2015-04-29 Thread Erik Johansson
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Torstein Ingebrigtsen Bø wrote: > Hi, > > Some island are covered completely with wood. For these island I get a tag > conflict. Since the natural tag is used for both. I have two solutions: > 1. make a combined tag like natural=coastline;wood > 2. make a 1-way re

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-GB] Wiki deprecation of an in-use feature

2015-04-29 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I think the boating people need to change. If not 'they' need to convince > at least 2 users.. and properly define what 'they' are doing and why... on > the wiki ... maybe 'they' should take a very close look at all the wat

Re: [Tagging] Colour coding of wiki description boxes

2015-04-29 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Monday 27 April 2015, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > I think that is wrong to colour-code the whole box red for > "deprecated" feature, for the usual reason - it only takes a handful > of people to "deprecate" something and this could easily lead to > widely used tags being shown in red, leading peopl