Re: [Tagging] Proposal: logo tag. Opinions?

> AFAIK wikidata's notability requirements should not be an issue, > because it is sufficient there is a link to a commons page [1] to > comply. > Are there any notability guidelines for adding things to Commons? ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] shop=appliance vs. shop=electronics

btw., shop=appliance was documented at some time: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AMap_Features%3Ashop=820013=809050 also what is now a redirect to electronics at first was aiming to become a feature definition page (appliance). cheers, Martin sent from a

Re: [Tagging] shop=appliance vs. shop=electronics

sent from a phone > On 19. Sep 2017, at 16:13, Simon Poole wrote: > > > Any thoughts? we've discussed this some years ago, without much consequences afaik. I agree that electronics is fine for big shops selling everything (electronics and home appliances), but it isn't

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: logo tag. Opinions?

sent from a phone > On 19. Sep 2017, at 19:14, Tobias Knerr wrote: > > I think a logo tag could have it's place. I prefer > using Wikidata where possible, but Wikidata has notability guidelines > that will probably prevent creating an item for smaller stores that are >

Re: [Tagging] shop=appliance vs. shop=electronics

On Wed, 2017-09-20 at 07:12 +1000, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > On 20 September 2017 at 00:13, Simon Poole wrote: > > And another one from the ragged edge of tagging. > > > > iD has a preset for shop=appliance > >

Re: [Tagging] shop=appliance vs. shop=electronics

On 20 September 2017 at 00:13, Simon Poole wrote: > And another one from the ragged edge of tagging. > > iD has a preset for shop=appliance > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Appliance_Store , I > assume for shops that sell larger electrical goods washing

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: logo tag. Opinions?

I guess logos are a sort of "cut-price" street view? Some logos will need language/country specific options -- which might make tagging them useful. Unless localization already works with wikidata? How to find e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Burger_King_Arabic_logo.svg from

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: logo tag. Opinions?

> using Wikidata where possible, but Wikidata has notability guidelines > that will probably prevent creating an item for smaller stores that > are > not part of a major national or international brand. One could refine the proposal: Only add a "logo" tag for entities which are not allowed in

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: logo tag. Opinions?

On 19.09.2017 16:27, José G Moya Y. wrote: > It's up to > the rendering app creators to decide if they want to display some shops > using its logos. In that case, the app would probably have some other > way to display them. What way would that be? Unless we want each render style author to

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: logo tag. Opinions?

On Tue, 2017-09-19 at 13:06 +0100, Philip Barnes wrote: > Ignoring the legal arguments for a moment, but what would OSM gain or > do with this information. How would it help us build a better map? Navigation. A logo is a distinct physical feature providing an easy way for a human to locate

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: "slogan" tag. Opinions?

On 09/19/2017 02:13 AM, SwiftFast wrote: > The slogan tag would contain a company/organization's slogan or motto. > It is human-readable, similar to the "description"[1] tag. Multiple > languages are allowed with the "slogan:lang" format, just like > descriptions and names. -1 Slogans change,

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: "slogan" tag. Opinions?

Hi, Am 2017-09-19 um 09:32 schrieb Topographe Fou: > From my understanding it would open even more the door to advertising and I > don't see any added value from a map point of view (no usefull data for the > user). > > Moreover, in your exemple, I don't see the point to repeat on all

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: logo tag. Opinions?

The logo value seems to be useful on the rendering side only. It's up to the rendering app creators to decide if they want to display some shops using its logos. In that case, the app would probably have some other way to display them. -1 to this proposal. El 19/9/2017 14:19, "Philip Barnes"

[Tagging] shop=appliance vs. shop=electronics

And another one from the ragged edge of tagging. iD has a preset for shop=appliance http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Appliance_Store , I assume for shops that sell larger electrical goods washing machines, dryers, fridges and so on (in German so called  "weisse Ware"). It

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: logo tag. Opinions?

Ignoring the legal arguments for a moment, but what would OSM gain or do with this information. How would it help us build a better map? Phil (trigpoint) On 19 September 2017 08:10:15 BST, SwiftFast wrote: >The logo tag would link to a Logo of a company/organization/shop. >

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: logo tag. Opinions?

2017-09-19 10:57 GMT+02:00 Edoardo Yossef Marascalchi < e.marascal...@gmail.com>: > My 2cents: > Logos are already available through wikidata. I would prefer to add the > wikidata id instead of redundant informations to commercial networks. > > Edo > +1 Cheers François

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: logo tag. Opinions?

On Tue, 2017-09-19 at 11:57 +0300, Edoardo Yossef Marascalchi wrote: > My 2cents: > Logos are already available through wikidata. I would prefer to add > the > wikidata id instead of redundant informations to commercial networks. > > Edo Good point.

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: logo tag. Opinions?

My 2cents: Logos are already available through wikidata. I would prefer to add the wikidata id instead of redundant informations to commercial networks. Edo On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 11:51 AM, SwiftFast wrote: > Sorry for the broken links. > > Company logos legal guidelines: >

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: "slogan" tag. Opinions?

I'm now convinced this is a bad idea. I'd like to thank everyone for sharing your opinions. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: logo tag. Opinions?

Sorry for the broken links. Company logos legal guidelines: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Logos Logo catalog: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Company_logos ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: "slogan" tag. Opinions?

On Tue, 2017-09-19 at 10:18 +0200, Tobias Knerr wrote: > While I accept the argument that logos allow easy visual > identification > (assuming we're allowed to display them – not sure about the legal > situation here), I do not personally expect slogans to be > particularly > helpful for the user.

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: "slogan" tag. Opinions?

On 19.09.2017 09:46, SwiftFast wrote: > Imagine an app where you'd click a shop, then you'd get a popup with a > logo(see my other proposal), a slogan, and a description. All of these > help a user understand what they're looking it. While I accept the argument that logos allow easy visual

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: "slogan" tag. Opinions?

On Tue, 2017-09-19 at 00:18 -0700, Tod Fitch wrote: > It is my understanding that corporate slogans are usually trademarked > and written permission is required to use or reproduce them. I am not a lawyer, but my common sense says that this is not true for the case where one is describing the

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: "slogan" tag. Opinions?

Yes, trademark issues should not be a problem. Trademark infringement is in general only relevant when the usage falsely implies that you are the infringed brand, or connected to it. However, I too would think this is not something appropriate for OSM. We collect geographical information, not

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: "slogan" tag. Opinions?

>From my understanding it would open even more the door to advertising and I don't see any added value from a map point of view (no usefull data for the user). +1 I agree totally. On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 2:33 PM, David Fox wrote: > Many company names are

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: "slogan" tag. Opinions?

> and I don't see any added value from a map point of view (no usefull > data for the user). Imagine an app where you'd click a shop, then you'd get a popup with a logo(see my other proposal), a slogan, and a description. All of these help a user understand what they're looking it. > Moreover,

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: "slogan" tag. Opinions?

Many company names are trademarked, yet included in OSM. That said, I'm uncertain of any benefits of a 'slogan' tag. On 19 September 2017, at 08:19, Tod Fitch wrote: It is my understanding that corporate slogans are usually trademarked and written permission is required

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: "slogan" tag. Opinions?

It is my understanding that corporate slogans are usually trademarked and written permission is required to use or reproduce them. I think that would rule them out as acceptable items to include in OSM. On September 19, 2017 12:13:21 AM PDT, SwiftFast wrote: >The slogan tag

[Tagging] Proposal: "slogan" tag. Opinions?

The slogan tag would contain a company/organization's slogan or motto. It is human-readable, similar to the "description"[1] tag. Multiple languages are allowed with the "slogan:lang" format, just like descriptions and names. Example usage: brand=McDonald's slogan=I'm Lovin' it [1]

[Tagging] Proposal: logo tag. Opinions?

The logo tag would link to a Logo of a company/organization/shop. To avoid unreliable links, questionable licenses, and the rest of the drawbacks of the "image"[1] tag, the value must link to a Wikimedia Commons image. The value format is identical to the wikimedia_commons[2] format. [1]