Re: [Tagging] wikidata <> other ref

On 29 November 2017 at 00:40, marc marc wrote: > my query shows you that you can get the same without wikidata. Please demonstrate how you would write a query that lists all the buildings whose architect is (hypothetically) John Smith. That's the architect John Smith born in London in 1853, not

Re: [Tagging] part_of:wikidata key

On Wednesday 29 November 2017, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > > So you want us to develop OSM tools and improve editors to preserve > and manage OSM ID inheritance/permanence. But this is not a simple > problem to solve. > > On the other hand, you deem maintenance of Wikidata IDs in OSM a huge > both

Re: [Tagging] part_of:wikidata key

On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 12:06 PM, Christoph Hormann wrote: > > I have no real problem with that either - just like i have no problem > with people keeping adding is_in tags. As said i would advise against > it but we have the freedom to use any tags you want and i firmly > believe in that. You c

Re: [Tagging] wikidata <> other ref <> no ref

Le 29. 11. 17 à 12:06, Andy Mabbett a écrit : > On 29 November 2017 at 00:40, marc marc wrote: > >> my query shows you that you can get the same without wikidata. > > Please demonstrate how you would write a query that lists all the > buildings whose architect is (hypothetically) John Smith. > >

Re: [Tagging] part_of:wikidata key

On Wednesday 29 November 2017, Marc Gemis wrote: > > I assume you mean verifiable without accessing the Wikidata website. > I often hear contradicting information about "verifiable". Some > people say it's only "on the ground", others find it OK to ask > locals. It would be nice to know what you un

Re: [Tagging] wikidata <> other ref <> no ref

On 29 November 2017 at 13:05, marc marc wrote: > Le 29. 11. 17 à 12:06, Andy Mabbett a écrit : >> On 29 November 2017 at 00:40, marc marc wrote: >> >>> my query shows you that you can get the same without wikidata. >> >> Please demonstrate how you would write a query that lists all the >> building

Re: [Tagging] wikidata <> other ref <> no ref

> Therefore, BEFORE you run a query to READ wikidata key in osm, you used > an EXTERNAL source (for exemple a list of address of those buildings) > and made a import or mass edition (often undocumented and therefore not > following the rule) to WRITE wikidata on all buildings. And what if local pe

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Fire Hydrant Extensions (part 2))

Finally the proposal [1] has been approved. Thank you to all people who worked on this project. As soon as possible we will update fire hydrant wiki page. Then we can go on with part 3... :) [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Fire_Hydrant_Extensions_(part_2) Best regards A

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Fire Hydrant Extensions (part 2))

Hi Alberto, This is a nice news :) Thank you to bring this up ! Francois 2017-11-29 22:26 GMT+01:00 Viking : > Finally the proposal [1] has been approved. > Thank you to all people who worked on this project. > As soon as possible we will update fire hydrant wiki page. > Then we can go on with

[Tagging] Permanent IDs RFC (was part_of:wikidata)

Permanent IDs has been brought up several times, especially as part of the Wikidata ID discussion. I started a wiki page to outline the requirements and goals, but it might be incomplete, feel free to add / correct / comment. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Permanent_ID Once we reach the agre

Re: [Tagging] part_of:wikidata key

Jo, take a look at * Links to Wikipedia pages about multiple objects There are several cases when an OSM feature matches a part of Wiki(pedia|data) article, and I don't think pa

Re: [Tagging] part_of:wikidata key

Do I understand it correctly that one of the reasons you do not want to use Wikidata IDs because the data on the item is not verified according to the same rules as OSM ? For me Wikidata IDs can be viewed as URLs, just like the URL of a shop. If I can verify that it describes the same item (more o

Re: [Tagging] Permanent IDs RFC (was part_of:wikidata)

I also see several problems to define the "same" concept: * a shop that closes (bankrupt) and a new that opens afterwards. Is this the same shop ? Is there a difference when the shop owner remains the same? When the products they sell are the same (I have a case of bakery that closed and opened a

Re: [Tagging] Permanent IDs RFC (was part_of:wikidata)

Marc, good points, thanks. Naturally it will never be decided by software. The tools should aid in continuity preservation, not dictate it. We as a community should definitely how each one of these and other cases should be handled -- to define what "permanence" means. > > * What if the shop move

Re: [Tagging] Permanent IDs RFC (was part_of:wikidata)

Hi, On 30.11.2017 03:13, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > Permanent IDs has been brought up several times, especially as part of > the Wikidata ID discussion. I started a wiki page to outline the > requirements and goals, but it might be incomplete, feel free to add / > correct / comment. See https://wiki

Re: [Tagging] Permanent IDs RFC (was part_of:wikidata)

Ah, I forgot to say: The result of many, lengthy, previous discussions about permanent IDs was generally: We don't want to shoulder the responsibility of maintaining a permanent ID in OSM that others can use for easy linking; instead, those others should be doing that work for themselves. Hence the