Re: [Tagging] Still RFC — Drop stop positions and platforms

2018-04-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone On 6. Apr 2018, at 11:04, Selfish Seahorse wrote: >> in this case you’ll have a platform object and a sidewalk object that happen >> to be at the same place. > > But that way you say that there are two separate objects, which isn't > true: it's just one physical object that

Re: [Tagging] Still RFC — Drop stop positions and platforms

2018-04-06 Thread Selfish Seahorse
On 30 March 2018 at 17:29, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > according to a dictionary, in BE platform also means “the floor area at the > entrance to a bus.” (not necessarily the same as the waiting area) while the > same dictionary requires for rail based transportation that the platform be > “r

Re: [Tagging] no_u_turn restrictions for every entry/exit into a roundabout when the way is split because of physical separation?

2018-04-06 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 9:36 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > defaults on areas are complicated because you can have an infinite number of > them and while inheriting them in a routing db might be “easy” (unless they > are contradicting), they are not directly visible on the elements they > affe

Re: [Tagging] no_u_turn restrictions for every entry/exit into a roundabout when the way is split because of physical separation?

2018-04-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 6. Apr 2018, at 03:50, > wrote: > > It doesn't tell you to leave the problem unsolved. It only tells you that > tagging the legal default if there is nothing on the ground is not the > correct solution to the problem. defaults on areas are complicated because you c

Re: [Tagging] no_u_turn restrictions for every entry/exit into a roundabout when the way is split because of physical separation?

2018-04-06 Thread Bryan Housel
Hey tagging@ Wearing my “maintainer of iD” hat today, I feel like it’s important to comment on this. I agree it would be great to be able to build a dataset of legal defaults which can be used by routers and editors in interesting ways. This is a thing that comes up for discussion frequently.

Re: [Tagging] Still RFC — Drop stop positions and platforms

2018-04-06 Thread Selfish Seahorse
>> Furthermore, >> double tagging doesn't work if the sidewalk is called 'X Road' and the >> bus stop 'Y Square'. > > > in this case you’ll have a platform object and a sidewalk object that happen > to be at the same place. But that way you say that there are two separate objects, which isn't tru

Re: [Tagging] no_u_turn restrictions for every entry/exit into a roundabout when the way is split because of physical separation?

2018-04-06 Thread osm.tagging
Yes, that's from https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Defaults which André Pirard linked to just recently here. Personally, I'm not a huge fan of the syntax. I would prefer the use of sub-relations. You would then have a type=defaults relation, with apply_to members that speci