Re: [Tagging] maxspeed:type vs source:maxspeed // StreetComplete

On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 20:36:06 +0200 Tobias Zwick wrote: > From your anecdote, it seems, an implicit speed limit tagging scheme > is even more important in the US than for example in the UK In my part of the US, a meaningful implicit speed limit tagging scheme is impossible, due to the three sets

Re: [Tagging] Draft Proposal: Default Langauge Format

On 19/09/18 08:58, Paul Allen wrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 11:24 PM, Joseph Eisenberg mailto:joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>> wrote: >”I'd rather have local languages mapped rather than the language the renderer 'should' use.” By recording each name in a separate “name:=*” tag,

Re: [Tagging] maxspeed:type vs source:maxspeed // StreetComplete

So on the boundary=administrative admin_level=6 for Rogers County, we could have something like maxspeed:type:default=45mph On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 8:21 AM Paul Johnson wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 1:17 PM Tod Fitch wrote: > >> >> > On Sep 18, 2018, at 10:41 AM, Tobias Zwick wrote: >>

[Tagging] Stormwater outlet into stream

I've come across the desire to map a stormwater outlet at the beginning of a stream a few times now and have failed to find an appropriate tag to place on the node. These outlets are pretty common in residential areas where the stormwater pipes underneath the roads (obviously unmapped) direct

Re: [Tagging] Draft Proposal: Default Langauge Format

Paul, Thank you for your comments. Have you read the complete Proposal page ? Perhaps I need to improve the wording to clarify some of your concerns >”I'd rather have local languages mapped rather than the language

Re: [Tagging] maxspeed:type vs source:maxspeed // StreetComplete

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 1:17 PM Tod Fitch wrote: > > > On Sep 18, 2018, at 10:41 AM, Tobias Zwick wrote: > > > > There is a misunderstanding. > > > > So, there are 597 towns, 77 counties and 2 councils in the state of > > Oklahoma and I understand that you want to say that all these entities >

Re: [Tagging] Draft Proposal: Default Langauge Format

sent from a phone > On 19. Sep 2018, at 00:58, Paul Allen wrote: > > The only thing the map should render is the name as it is displayed on > signage. we’re not discussing map rendering here, but which information we want in the db, and how, so that people that want to render their map

Re: [Tagging] Draft Proposal: Default Langauge Format

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 11:24 PM, Joseph Eisenberg < joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >”I'd rather have local languages mapped rather than the language the > renderer 'should' use.” > > By recording each name in a separate “name:=*” tag, database users > and map makers will be able to pick

Re: [Tagging] Draft Proposal: Default Langauge Format

>”I'd rather have local languages mapped rather than the language the renderer 'should' use.” Yes, that’s what this proposal suggests. Right now many map features have only a default “name=*” tag, without “name:=“ tags to specify the language. Do database users and map renderers are forced to use

Re: [Tagging] landuse for government offices ?

I would accept civic_admin as well. Markus - do you want to revive the proposal? I'd like to see this become a approved tag. On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 1:15 PM OSMDoudou < 19b350d2-b1b3-4edb-ad96-288ea1238...@gmx.com> wrote: > I'll go for civic_admin. Sounds specific enough. Thx. > > >

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: OSM Wikibase is now live

While there is a concept of "fair use" in UK copyright law, it has essentially nothing to do with the US concept of the same name and in general is a solution to nothing in an OSM context. Figuring out how CC BY-SA 2.0 (a licence for classical creative works) would apply to a systematic

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: OSM Wikibase is now live

Simon, at this point, there only content of the Item namespace are short key descriptions and a few "facts" (like the status of the proposal and the type of objects it applies to). The linked images are licensed under their own terms. Would copying short description strings be considered fair

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: OSM Wikibase is now live

a) all of the relevant wiki content is licensed CC BY-SA 2.0, I don't see any remotely practical way to re-licence the contents at this point in time b) if something is (actually) licensed on CC0 terms (and not pretend CC0) the creator of the work has rescinded all rights in it (as far as

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: OSM Wikibase is now live

Sure, we could experiment with storing "preset id" in the OSM features, e.g. preset_id=Q12345 would imply that this feature should have `leisure=pitch+sport=soccer+surface=grass`. Also, in some cases it might even be possible to have multiple presets for the same feature. I don't think we should

Re: [Tagging] landuse for government offices ?

I'll go for civic_admin. Sounds specific enough. Thx. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: OSM Wikibase is now live

uto, 18. ruj 2018. u 20:13 Yuri Astrakhan napisao je: > I am not sure I understood about the key+value property. Are you asking > for a new string property to store "key=value" of the current tag? But > that's already being stored as a sitelink (shown in the upper right corner). > That

Re: [Tagging] maxspeed:type vs source:maxspeed // StreetComplete

Hey, I did not claim that such explanatory signboards are always to be expected at country borders. Just saying that it is at least common in Europe. Anyway, so, in order for data consumers to infer a concrete speed limit from a road that has no explicit speed limit posted, the different road

Re: [Tagging] maxspeed:type vs source:maxspeed // StreetComplete

> On Sep 18, 2018, at 10:41 AM, Tobias Zwick wrote: > > There is a misunderstanding. > > So, there are 597 towns, 77 counties and 2 councils in the state of > Oklahoma and I understand that you want to say that all these entities > have authority over defining the default speed limit(s) within

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: OSM Wikibase is now live

I am hoping that we will start making templates that use that data directly soon, so that banner might cause more confusion than solve it. I think we can make some generic banner for the given namespace using MediaWiki pages. On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:12 AM Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > On

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: OSM Wikibase is now live

Janko, this is an awesome idea! We could use it for templates - e.g. iD editor could show a list of these, and selecting one would pre-populate it. The combination would contain both keys (e.g. something that user would need to type in), and tags (key=specific value). It would be a bit more

Re: [Tagging] landuse for government offices ?

On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 at 19:35, OSMDoudou <19b350d2-b1b3-4edb-ad96-288ea1238...@gmx.com> wrote: > How to tag a piece of land where governmental several office buildings are > situated ? Hi! I would tag it landuse=civic_admin, which has been defined as 'an area used for civic / governmental /

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: OSM Wikibase is now live

This is wonderful news! I hope this will soon become the new principal tag database to get semantic meaning out of OSM tags. Thank you to all involved! And now a few questions: Why isn't there key+value as a property? The Q888 (bridge:movable=bascule) should have a property "Tag" which has the

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: OSM Wikibase is now live

Em 2018-09-18 14:08, Yuri Astrakhan escreveu: Peter, just to set the right expectations: the licensing initiative would ONLY affect the metadata, not the actual OSM data. Yes, to vote only this little improvement, metadata with CC0 instead CC-BY-SA. Only metadata, no geometry: only data of

Re: [Tagging] maxspeed:type vs source:maxspeed // StreetComplete

There is a misunderstanding. So, there are 597 towns, 77 counties and 2 councils in the state of Oklahoma and I understand that you want to say that all these entities have authority over defining the default speed limit(s) within their borders, right? But if they do set a different default speed

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: OSM Wikibase is now live

Peter, just to set the right expectations: the licensing initiative would ONLY affect the metadata, not the actual OSM data. On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 12:57 PM peterkrauss wrote: > Thanks Yuri, > ... and Hello community! Lets vote? > How to start a formal and democratic process for it? > > PS:

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: OSM Wikibase is now live

Thanks Yuri, ... and Hello community! Lets vote? How to start a formal and democratic process for it? PS: will be the biggest improvement of 2018, waving with structured data and CC0 for government adoption of the OSM! Em 2018-09-18 13:43, Yuri Astrakhan escreveu: Peter, I agree it would

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: OSM Wikibase is now live

Peter, I agree it would be much easier to use OSM metadata under CC0, and I might even be able to change the interface to show CC0 for the Item namespace, but we may have to rewrite all of the description text. If the community is OK with that undertaking (or if a short one sentence description

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: OSM Wikibase is now live

Hi, veri good news! About license, can by changed to CC0 as Wikidata? It very important in structured data and data-interchange to use CC0... We are using Wikidata with government applications because is CC0: we can copy/paste wikidata information to a table and publish the table with the

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: OSM Wikibase is now live

Hi, On 18.09.2018 11:43, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > Key:bridge:movable:    https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:Q104 Could you make a banner across the top of that page that clarifies that this is just a copy of information found elsewhere, and that changing the content of Q104 will not change

[Tagging] Fwd: OSM Wikibase is now live

Cross-posting to tagging as this new effort should help tagging and metadata management the most. Osmaritans, as of today, OSM Wiki can store structured tag metadata similar to Wikidata. In every possible language, cross-linked, with images, validation rules, or anything else the community

Re: [Tagging] maxspeed:type vs source:maxspeed // StreetComplete

18. Sep 2018 01:07 by ba...@ursamundi.org > On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 4:42 PM Tobias Zwick <> o...@westnordost.de > > > wrote: >> In order to find an optimal and future proof tagging schema for default >> speed limits, I believe that first

Re: [Tagging] maxspeed:type vs source:maxspeed // StreetComplete

17. Sep 2018 16:17 by f...@zz.de : > > Hi, > is it intentional that StreetComplete tags the maxspeed source/type in > maxspeed:type instead of the much more used source:maxspeed? > Yes. See for example https://github.com/westnordost/StreetComplete/issues/492