[Tagging] Road blocks?

2018-12-23 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Hi Council are currently doing a lot of storm water drainage works in our area so various roads will be closed off for some time (several months). Probably a silly question I know, but I'm not assuming :-), but will dropping one of these

Re: [Tagging] request for review: OSM wiki rewording of tourism=motel based on Wikipedia

2018-12-23 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
In the USA, we would also assume a motel offers free parking. Hotels may charge extra for parking, especial if located downtown or next to an airport. Is this also the case in Europe and Australia? On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 8:55 AM Dave Swarthout wrote: > "Today the main difference seems to be

Re: [Tagging] request for review: OSM wiki rewording of tourism=motel based on Wikipedia

2018-12-23 Thread Dave Swarthout
"Today the main difference seems to be the sign out front. If a hostelry calls itself a motel, it is a motel. If it calls itself a hotel, it is a hotel. Local licensing authorities do not differentiate between them and they are regulated identically, so far as I can tell. I'd say the

Re: [Tagging] request for review: OSM wiki rewording of tourism=motel based on Wikipedia

2018-12-23 Thread Allan Mustard
Motel = MOtor hoTEL The major difference between a 'hotel" and a "motel" originally was the configuration of the building with respect to parking. At a traditionally designed motel, the cars are parked outside the units, which typically open to the outdoors, not to a hallway, so that patrons of

Re: [Tagging] request for review: OSM wiki rewording of tourism=motel based on Wikipedia

2018-12-23 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thank you for bringing this up bkil, as it raises a problem that I have noticed, but not discussed, myself. At least in Australia, & possibly other places?, we have several classifications of hotel &/or motel. We have "International" hotels eg

Re: [Tagging] request for review: OSM wiki rewording of tourism=motel based on Wikipedia

2018-12-23 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
23 Dec 2018, 21:37 by bkil.hu...@gmail.com: > Let's read the Wikipedia article together and then discuss the matter further. > Note that there are also other resources.___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] request for review: OSM wiki rewording of tourism=motel based on Wikipedia

2018-12-23 Thread bkil
Unfortunately, if we only included the objective criteria based on a high interaction between the parking lot and the rooms, then the number of motels in Hungary for example would be near zero. As two of you have raised concerns regarding this change, I've reverted it and moved the text to my own

Re: [Tagging] request for review: OSM wiki rewording of tourism=motel based on Wikipedia

2018-12-23 Thread Volker Schmidt
I would go one step further, an say that there is essentially no functional definition of the difference between a generic "motel" and a generic "hotel". In fact many of the "hotel"s I have stayed in, mainly in the USA, were "motel"s according to the criteria given in the proposal. What one could

Re: [Tagging] request for review: OSM wiki rewording of tourism=motel based on Wikipedia

2018-12-23 Thread bkil
Hello Niklaas, I have written my own arguments - I have not copied anything from Wikipedia, I wrote every sentence of the text you see there myself. I've actually came up with my own arguments first based on limited local experience and only then double checked in Wikipedia whether I was way off.

Re: [Tagging] request for review: OSM wiki rewording of tourism=motel based on Wikipedia

2018-12-23 Thread LeTopographeFou
Thank you for asking. I go a lot to either motels or hotels and I also think that the difference between a motel and an hotel is mainly based on the design of the place, not on the number of nights, the proximity to tourist attractions or major highways or the cost of the land. Consequently I

Re: [Tagging] Benefits of namespaces

2018-12-23 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
19 Dec 2018, 22:24 by ricoz@gmail.com: > the OSM tag chain should be imho used only for very common things because > each member > of the chain will turn up as a "top level" tag in the database and taginfo. > If used extensively for attributes I would consider it polution of the >

Re: [Tagging] Trailhead tagging

2018-12-23 Thread Peter Elderson
Find by name; POI-maps for target groups; list/select suitable starting places for recreational routes; link to other data sources such as wikipedia and operator's website; use in route-by-POI applications (e.g. cycling node network routing). For a particular trailhead, display and use

Re: [Tagging] request for review: OSM wiki rewording of tourism=motel based on Wikipedia

2018-12-23 Thread bkil
Thank you for the insight, I'll try to figure out a better wording there. I'm also considering to improve the wording of the guest house and hotel articles in the future, though I'll need to find a way to do this without adding too much redundancy. Well, what I wanted to convey in those sentences

Re: [Tagging] Trailhead tagging

2018-12-23 Thread Marc Gemis
I think the parking place for the Precipice walk in Wales (https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/394294583) which also has a toilet and a picnic table would be considered a trailhead. There is also a nice sign https://xian.smugmug.com/Vacation/Wales-2018/i-hC7kWcK/A to tell you that you are at the

Re: [Tagging] request for review: OSM wiki rewording of tourism=motel based on Wikipedia

2018-12-23 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
The one concern I have is the new sentences that suggest that hotels are “typically not [booked for ] single night” while motels are usually booked for 1 night. I have certainly stayed for 2 to 3 nights at a “Motel 6” and other motels. And I have never encountered problems booking rooms for a

[Tagging] `Uncontrasted` tactile paving

2018-12-23 Thread tomoya muramoto
Hi, all. Recently I've noticed there is `tactile_paving=contrasted` tag. I want to specify "uncontrasted" tactile pavings also. Like these: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tactile_paving,_with_obstructions.jpg https://amanaimages.com/info/infoRM.aspx?SearchKey=25086003003 The tag would

[Tagging] request for review: OSM wiki rewording of tourism=motel based on Wikipedia

2018-12-23 Thread bkil
I've made a major rewording of this tag. Please review and don't hesitate to comment or improve if I've mistakenly changed the meaning of the tag: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Atourism%3Dmotel=revision=1755686=1561324 Source: based on Wikipedia and recent mapping