[Tagging] Difference between barrier=embankment and man_made=embankment?

The tag barrier=embankment was not part of the original barriers proposal and does not have a wiki page, but it is used 4750 times: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/barrier=embankment However, man_made=embankment is well-documented and used over 80,000 times:

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Feature Proposal - area of steps for pedestrians.

sent from a phone > On 9. Apr 2019, at 17:42, Tobias Knerr wrote: > > - I'm not convinced that a relation (rather than an area:highway > polygon) is necessary in typical cases. Usually, the most acute angles > of the polygon mark the point where the bottom/top border is separated > from the

[Tagging] Was barrier=jersey_barrier approved in a proposal?

The page for barrier=jersey_barrier says it is an approved tag. It's certainly commonly used, but I can't find a proposal page for it. It was not included on the list in the 2008 Barriers proposal, and the wiki page was created only in 2014. I suspect it's a de facto tag, but it's hard to search

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Feature Proposal - area of steps for pedestrians.

sent from a phone > On 9. Apr 2019, at 17:42, Tobias Knerr wrote: > > Could you describe the intended logic for > constructing the geometry of the individual steps from an area_steps > relation? I can think of several good heuristics myself, but the notable > "same number of nodes" rule makes

Re: [Tagging] Residential=rural, =urban?

On 11/04/19 19:06, Ilya Zverev wrote: You are mostly correct, =rural is for quarter areas (that are bonded by streets and have no streets inside) that contain mostly one- or two-level houses, and =urban is for bigger (~4-5 levels), usually detached apartment buildings. The value of the tag is

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Key:golf_cart

On Fri, 12 Apr 2019 at 01:58, Paul Allen wrote: > It is along the lines of a driving licence, but not exactly the same (as I > understand it). Which > means it should probably be access=permit (discussed here a few months > ago). > > It's not like access for cars (you're in a car, you have a

Re: [Tagging] Waterway tributary role

Marc, thanks for the link. Do I understand correctly that that page is just a personal notes page? Brad, imho "destination" key does not help much, because names are not unique and if you are making a waterway network, you still have to compare geometries. Cheers, Eugene пт, 12 апр. 2019 г. в

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Feature Proposal - area of steps for pedestrians.

On 10.04.19 00:45, Warin wrote: > But then if they are curved or have corners then in order to project > that correctly form one way to the other they would need to have > corresponding nodes. > Say if is curved at the top but not at the bottom .. if the curve goes > straight down .. ok .. but

Re: [Tagging] Waterway tributary role

Seems like this is essentially replaced by the destination key? On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 4:24 PM marc marc wrote: > Le 11.04.19 à 12:48, Eugene Podshivalov a écrit : > > > I could not find any reference on the wiki. > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Frodrigo/Relation:Waterway >

Re: [Tagging] Waterway tributary role

Le 11.04.19 à 12:48, Eugene Podshivalov a écrit : > I could not find any reference on the wiki. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Frodrigo/Relation:Waterway ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] what is the meaning of bicycle=yes on highway=path

Volker Schmidt wrote: > I presume that your router would fall into the same trap, or does it > evaluate mtb:scale? Of course it does. :) cheers Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Tagging-f5258744.html ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] what is the meaning of bicycle=yes on highway=path

On 11/04/2019 17:13, Volker Schmidt wrote: On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 17:50, Paul Johnson > wrote: It's recommended that bicycle and foot get tagged explicitly where there's no obvious global default (like footway, path, cycleway and motorway). Where can

Re: [Tagging] what is the meaning of bicycle=yes on highway=path

Hello, Le 11.04.19 à 16:43, Volker Schmidt a écrit : > OpenCycleMap renders a "highway=path" with "bicycle=yes" in the same way > as a dedicated cycleway ("highway=cycleway" with our without > "bicycle=designated") or a combined foot-cycle-way ("highway=path" with > "foot=designated" and

Re: [Tagging] what is the meaning of bicycle=yes on highway=path

> That's not a default that I feel enormously comfortable with. Whatever the > wiki might say, "bare" highway=path (no other tags) is often used for > little > footpaths across city parks, sidewalks, and so on. > cycle.travel errs on the side of caution and therefore doesn't route along >

Re: [Tagging] what is the meaning of bicycle=yes on highway=path

Volker Schmidt wrote: > "highway=path" implies "bicycle=yes" (in most jurisdictions) - see the > proposed Default-Access-Restriction for all countries That's not a default that I feel enormously comfortable with. Whatever the wiki might say, "bare" highway=path (no other tags) is often used for

Re: [Tagging] what is the meaning of bicycle=yes on highway=path

On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 17:50, Paul Johnson wrote: > It's recommended that bicycle and foot get tagged explicitly where there's > no obvious global default (like footway, path, cycleway and motorway). > Where can I find this recommendation ? I had found only these default access tables:

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Key:golf_cart

On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 16:32, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > On 10. Apr 2019, at 14:28, Paul Allen wrote: > > > > People must obtain and display permits > > on their carts to use the paths. Accordingly, somebody has tagged > several footpaths there > > with golf_cart=permissive. > > that’s

Re: [Tagging] what is the meaning of bicycle=yes on highway=path

It's recommended that bicycle and foot get tagged explicitly where there's no obvious global default (like footway, path, cycleway and motorway). On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 09:44 Volker Schmidt wrote: > In the context of cycling-related tagging there is an issue which I would > like to bring up. >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Key:golf_cart

sent from a phone > On 10. Apr 2019, at 14:28, Paul Allen wrote: > > People must obtain and display permits > on their carts to use the paths. Accordingly, somebody has tagged several > footpaths there > with golf_cart=permissive. that’s definitely not „permissive“, it’s either „yes“,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Key:golf_cart

sent from a phone > On 10. Apr 2019, at 01:20, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > > Golf carts should be defined to include all similar "neighborhood electric > vehicles" with 2 tracks / 4 wheels, low top speed, defined differently > legally than motorcycles or automobiles. I would expect

[Tagging] what is the meaning of bicycle=yes on highway=path

In the context of cycling-related tagging there is an issue which I would like to bring up. This regards the tag combination highway=path and bicycle=yes. Access tags generally are about legal access (with a few exceptions which do not apply here) "highway=path" implies "bicycle=yes" (in most

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Subkey camp_pitch:*

> On Apr 11, 2019, at 1:01 AM, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > > Thank you for your comments, Graeme > >> aren't you duplicating everything that exists under the >> tourism=camp_site & caravan_site pages ? > > This proposal is for designating features that are available at > individual spots for

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Camp_site=camp_pitch

Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > I'm not sure if direction is necessary. How would the direction tag be used? Direction would be like with benches. > If the pitch has a clear rectangular shape it could be mapped as an > area. Shure, if it can be copied from an aerial image but if its a wooden

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Camp_site=camp_pitch

It sounds like your sites are used as second homes or vacation homes in the countryside, so I can see how that could still fit under tourism=caravan_site. A "mobile home park" (or "trailer park") in the USA has trailers or mobile homes used as primary residences by low-income families, in most

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Camp_site=camp_pitch

Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > I assume these are caravan or motorhome sites? Yep mostly caravans with wheels removed and awnings. > But I think that a place with "permanent_camping=only" is mistagged. Hm basically these are members-only sites without reception but still campsites at least in

Re: [Tagging] golf_cart=permit? | Re: Feature Proposal - RFC - Key:golf_cart

I'd recommend trying to eliminate the parenthesis, because it would be easier to understand if it can be read straight through. Also, I don't quite understand the last phrase: > "because only the rightholders are given permission based on individual > discretion." Who are the "rightholders"?

Re: [Tagging] golf_cart=permit? | Re: Feature Proposal - RFC - Key:golf_cart

I've written a definition for access=permit: permit Use is subject to prior authorization (eg written, photo, other), in the absence of which the use (entry) may be denied. Permission (which may only apply to certain transportation mode: bicycle, foot, etc.) is not granted on the

Re: [Tagging] golf_cart=permit? | Re: Feature Proposal - RFC - Key:golf_cart

Isn't it normally to need a license and registration for any type of motor vehicle? I've read that in Japan you even have to show proof of access to a parking spacing before buying or registering a car in the city. Are these golf cart permits only given out sparingly via a lottery system, rather

Re: [Tagging] golf_cart=permit? | Re: Feature Proposal - RFC - Key:golf_cart

On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 13:41, Rory McCann wrote: > On 10/04/2019 14:28, Paul Allen wrote: > > You may want to take Peachtree City, Georgia into account in your > > proposal. It has an alternative transportation network of golf cart > > paths. People must obtain and display permits on their

[Tagging] golf_cart=permit? | Re: Feature Proposal - RFC - Key:golf_cart

On 10/04/2019 14:28, Paul Allen wrote: You may want to take Peachtree City, Georgia into account in your proposal. It has an alternative transportation network of golf cart paths. People must obtain and display permits on their carts to use the paths. Accordingly, somebody has tagged several

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Camp_site=camp_pitch

Most camping sites on government land in the USA only allow people to stay for 2 weeks at a time, so it’s not only about the operating season. On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 7:59 PM marc marc wrote: > Le 11.04.19 à 12:00, Joseph Eisenberg a écrit : > > The tags permanent_camping=yes and

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Camp_site=camp_pitch

Le 11.04.19 à 12:00, Joseph Eisenberg a écrit : > The tags permanent_camping=yes and permanent_camping=no are a good idea. opening_hours=* or seasonal=* doesn't fit the need ? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

[Tagging] Waterway tributary role

Hi all, Does anyone remember where "tributary" role of waterway relations was discussed. It is used quite often in Fance but I could not find any reference on the wiki. Thanks, Eugene ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Camp_site=camp_pitch

On 4/11/19, Sven Geggus wrote: > At least here in Germany most campsites have different pitches for short > term or long term campers. > > While the former ones usually stay for a few days or weeks only, the latter > ones are more or less permanent residents which pay on a seasonal base > rather

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Camp_site=camp_pitch

Hi Sven, > Any reason for using a "camp_pitch:" prefix/namespace instead of generic > tagging? I believe you are commenting on the "Key:camp_pitch" proposal, which I posted about one day after the Camp_site=camp_pitch proposal. It's easy to get them mixed up. I did it just this morning myself!

Re: [Tagging] Residential=rural, =urban?

How do you tag an area of 2 level houses in (suburban) Moscow? In the USA, it’s common to have 1 to 2 level detached houses in “old” neighborhoods near a city center which are considered “urban”. And what about neighborhoods in Asian that are all single-level houses, but very close together

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Camp_site=camp_pitch

Hello again, forgot another one. At least here in Germany most campsites have different pitches for short term or long term campers. While the former ones usually stay for a few days or weeks only, the latter ones are more or less permanent residents which pay on a seasonal base rather than a

Re: [Tagging] Residential=rural, =urban?

You are mostly correct, =rural is for quarter areas (that are bonded by streets and have no streets inside) that contain mostly one- or two-level houses, and =urban is for bigger (~4-5 levels), usually detached apartment buildings. The value of the tag is mostly used to assume height of

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Camp_site=camp_pitch

Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > Please comment here or on the proposal discussion page: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/camp_site_pitch Looks good, by and large :) Any reason for using a "camp_pitch:" prefix/namespace instead of generic tagging? A surface is just a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Subkey camp_pitch:*

Le 11.04.19 à 07:38, Graeme Fitzpatrick a écrit : > > On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 12:32, Joseph Eisenberg > 2) camp_pitch:fire=no? > open wood fires are not permitted, tourism=picnic_site use openfire=yes|no already in use for 124 objects with camp_pitc

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Subkey camp_pitch:*

Thank you for your comments, Graeme > aren't you duplicating everything that exists under the > tourism=camp_site & caravan_site pages ? This proposal is for designating features that are available at individual spots for one tent or one caravan (normally, although I suppose a group tent site

Re: [Tagging] tags for a live stock sale yard

Cattle Market, or Livestock Market are the British terms for these. Cattle Market is the more general term although the signs these days will say Livestock Market so that is probably the most accurate. Landuse I would have thought would be commercial. Phil (trigpoint) On Thursday, 11