Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Baby changing table

2019-04-21 Thread bkil
Here are some alternatives, do share your concerns with each: nappy_changing=* nappy_changing_place=* nappy_changing_table=* nappy_changing_room=* ... same with _change_ in place of _changing_ Some I do not like as much: changing_table=* change_table=* baby_table=* diaper=* diaper_table=* nappy_ta

Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

2019-04-21 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Apr 21, 2019, 3:55 AM by yumean1...@gmail.com: > I think that our discussion about these tagging schemes is in very slow > progress. In my opinion, a proposal on a new tag like > amenity=educational_services  > is more effective rather than shifting to educational=* tagging schemes. > I agree

Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

2019-04-21 Thread Valor Naram
I agree since "amenity" is a good tag and there are many different types of facilities available. In my view introducing an own key for each possibility would be messy.Leaving it how it is now seems the best. Future proposals should just add a value to the "amenity" key Original Message ---

[Tagging] 'track_detail' on railway lines - what does it represent?

2019-04-21 Thread Dave F via Tagging
Hi 'track_detail, used on railway tracks. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/4414158 4700+ total worldwide  3900+ in the UK I can find nothing in the wiki Is track_detail meant to indicate that all tracks have been mapped? Surely that can be noted just by looking at the map? DaveF _

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal -- Voting result -- shop=fashion_accessories

2019-04-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 10. Apr 2019, at 11:38, Markus wrote: > > The proposal is already linked from the data item Q19528 [1] and is > passed on to the {{ValueDescription}} template on the feature page. > There should be a sheet icon behind "Status: approved" on the feature > page. Does it not

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal -- Voting result -- shop=fashion_accessories

2019-04-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sorry, sent former mail by accident. Yes, I see the icon now. I must have missed we changed the structure how we present tags. IMHO the tiny icon beside the approved status makes conceptually sense (including the placement), but is visually less evident than the former text links which we manual

Re: [Tagging] Other missing landform tags

2019-04-21 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, 21 Apr 2019 at 01:40, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Arch = A hole though some feature, usually rock. Covered overhead and to > both sides, open at both ends. > Proposed back in 2013 here https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Natural_arch (and still underway). Us

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Baby changing table

2019-04-21 Thread Michael Brandtner via Tagging
 changing_table seems to be the most common term so we should use it. https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/changing%20tablehttps://www.dictionary.com/browse/changing-table   Gesendet von Yahoo Mail für iPad Am Sonntag, April 21, 2019, 9:12 AM schrieb bkil : Here are some alternatives,

Re: [Tagging] Other missing landform tags

2019-04-21 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
On 4/21/19, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Arch = A hole though some feature, usually rock. Covered overhead and to > both sides, open at both ends. This is natural=arch https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Natural_arch - as mentioned by Paul Allen above > archipelago = a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Baby changing table

2019-04-21 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
"Changing table" is also the term that makes sense to me as a speaker of American English. As a parent I would appreciate knowing if there is a table where I can place my infant child while changing their diaper ("nappy"); otherwise I need to use my lap or the floor in the bathroom. While I have

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal -- Voting result -- shop=fashion_accessories

2019-04-21 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
It's also a problem that the image does not have an alt text, so nothing is visible if you do not load images. (I usually browse the wiki without loading images, because I use a satellite internet connection and pay for data) Would it be possible for there to be some alt text and hover-over text

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Baby changing table

2019-04-21 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, 21 Apr 2019 at 15:43, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > "Changing table" is also the term that makes sense to me as a speaker > of American English. > The only possible ambiguity is if it is located in a temple. It could belong to the money changers. -- Paul __

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal -- Voting result -- shop=fashion_accessories

2019-04-21 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, 21 Apr 2019 at 15:46, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > Would it be possible for there to be some alt text and hover-over text > that shows there is a link to the proposal? > +1 -- Paul ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lis

Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

2019-04-21 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
In villages and neighborhoods of smaller towns, the school is often the largest or only public place. In Central and South America, the public school is also often the place where voting takes place for elections, community meetings happen, and cultural events take place. This is also true of many

Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

2019-04-21 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, 21 Apr 2019 at 15:52, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > In villages and neighborhoods of smaller towns, the school is often > the largest or only public place. > No argument here. In Central and South America, the public school is also often the > place where voting takes place for elections,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Baby changing table

2019-04-21 Thread Rory McCann
This would certainly be a little more obvious than the existing `diaper` tag. The current proposal is baby_changing_table=*, but the common values for diaper=* include things like diaper=room, diaper=table, diaper=bench, so I think limiting this tag to just tables is bad. May I suggest baby_c

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Baby changing table

2019-04-21 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, 21 Apr 2019 at 16:58, Rory McCann wrote: > > (And as a native (Hiberno) English speaker, "baby changing" sounds fine > for changing a baby's nappy, not changing the baby for another baby! :P ) > Changing a baby for a different baby would be silly. However, if I were given the opportunit

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Baby changing table

2019-04-21 Thread Valor Naram
> Here are some alternatives, do share your concerns with each:: )1) I am not on the same opinion concerning the name "nappy_changing" or something like nappy:1.1. We've had heard about changing tables for adults hence the name "baby_changing_table" in order to distinguish between changing tables f

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Baby changing table

2019-04-21 Thread Valor Naram
The name of the key has been changed to "changing_table" On Sat, 2019-04-20 at 17:12 +0200, Valor Naram wrote: > Definition: A tag to mark the possibility to change the baby's nappy  > Proposal page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/ > baby_changing_tables > > Please join the d

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Baby changing table

2019-04-21 Thread Michael Brandtner via Tagging
Even if there is an extra room, there will be a changing table in it. and the bench is a substitute for a changing table. So I don't find this tag limiting. Of course there will be also a bin and a washing basin in such a room. But the table is the most important feature, similar to amenity=toil

Re: [Tagging] 'track_detail' on railway lines - what does it represent?

2019-04-21 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Apr 21, 2019, 1:37 PM by tagging@openstreetmap.org: > Hi > 'track_detail, used on railway tracks. > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/4414158 > > > 4700+ total worldwide  3900+ in the UK > > I can find nothing in the wiki > > Is track_detail meant

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Baby changing table

2019-04-21 Thread marc marc
Hello, > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/baby_changing_tables First of all, thank you for writing the proposal. however I wonder if it's useful to promote changing_table:height is there really any use for this tag ? I didn't find this kind of information in the current dia

Re: [Tagging] diaper subkey for wheelchair toilets including a changing table

2019-04-21 Thread marc marc
Le 20.04.19 à 00:36, bkil a écrit : > Is it correct that nappy_changing:location=toilets is equivalent to > nappy_changing:location=unisex? not really, having a changing table somewhere in the toilet area doesn't give any information about whether these toilets are unisex or not

Re: [Tagging] 'track_detail' on railway lines - what does it represent?

2019-04-21 Thread Warin
On 22/04/19 06:52, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Apr 21, 2019, 1:37 PM by tagging@openstreetmap.org: Hi 'track_detail, used on railway tracks. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/4414158 4700+ total worldwide  3900+ in the UK I can find nothing in the wiki Is track_detail

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Baby changing table

2019-04-21 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, 21 Apr 2019 at 22:56, marc marc wrote: > > however I wonder if it's useful to promote changing_table:height > is there really any use for this tag ? A parent in a wheelchair might find that useful information, although it would only influence a decision if there were similar facilities

Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

2019-04-21 Thread Warin
I am one of the people who disagree about using the key amenity Would shops, crafts and offices be better in amenity? I think not. Where any set of features can be grouped together they should be, and given there own key, such as education. This helps mappers find similar things all under the o

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal -- Voting result -- shop=fashion_accessories

2019-04-21 Thread Warin
On 22/04/19 00:49, Paul Allen wrote: On Sun, 21 Apr 2019 at 15:46, Joseph Eisenberg mailto:joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>> wrote: Would it be possible for there to be some alt text and hover-over text that shows there is a link to the proposal? +1 +1 It is certainly less visible, obv

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Baby changing table

2019-04-21 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 at 08:40, Paul Allen wrote: > On Sun, 21 Apr 2019 at 22:56, marc marc wrote: > >> >> however I wonder if it's useful to promote changing_table:height >> is there really any use for this tag ? > > > A parent in a wheelchair might find that useful information, although it > wou

Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

2019-04-21 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, 21 Apr 2019 at 23:42, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: This helps mappers find similar things all under the one key. > If highways were placed under amenity so > amenity=motorway/secondary/primary/residential etc it would make mapping > harder not easier. > It certainly makes overpass

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Baby changing table

2019-04-21 Thread marc marc
Le 22.04.19 à 00:39, Paul Allen a écrit : > On Sun, 21 Apr 2019 at 22:56, marc marc wrote: > > however I wonder if it's useful to promote changing_table:height > is there really any use for this tag ? > > A parent in a wheelchair might find that useful information, if the goal is to ta

Re: [Tagging] Variable position

2019-04-21 Thread André Pirard
On 24/12/2017 02.21, Matej Lieskovský wrote: Hello, is there a way to map objects, whose position changes slightly? In fact, the position of all objects changes slightly over time and a coordinate should be a vector indicating a position and a (presently best value of) direction and speed of d

Re: [Tagging] Avoid using place=locality - find more specific tags instead

2019-04-21 Thread John Willis via Tagging
> On Apr 19, 2019, at 4:58 AM, Kevin Kenny wrote: > > Part of that is that as our population has grown, so have our > settlements, to where we have to give greater respect to the > boundaries between them. > > The administrative boundaries do, of course give rise to corner cases. Where I li

Re: [Tagging] Avoid using place=locality - find more specific tags instead

2019-04-21 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 10:40 PM John Willis via Tagging wrote: Kevin Kenny: > > The administrative boundaries do, of course give rise to corner cases. > But when you have named places that have no residents (so not a village) but > hold some local or greater meaning (such as the stations of Mt

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Baby changing table

2019-04-21 Thread Warin
On 22/04/19 00:48, Paul Allen wrote: On Sun, 21 Apr 2019 at 15:43, Joseph Eisenberg mailto:joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>> wrote: "Changing table" is also the term that makes sense to me as a speaker of American English. The only possible ambiguity is if it is located in a temple.  It co

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Baby changing table

2019-04-21 Thread Valor Naram
+1 I agree with Paul Original Message Subject: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Baby changing tableFrom: Paul Allen To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" CC: On Sun, 21 Apr 2019 at 22:56, marc marc wrote: however I wonder if it's useful