Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=power_supply

2019-06-22 Thread Michael Brandtner via Tagging
I didn't really want to include device charging into this, but it seems that my tag is too generic to prevent that. Maybe I should stop trying to combine the power supplies at camping grounds and marinas and instead go with amenity=shorepower?  Am So., Juni 23, 2019 at 3:44 schrieb

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=power_supply

2019-06-22 Thread Warin
On 23/06/19 01:39, Michael Brandtner via Tagging wrote: Thank you for your comments so far. I've now written a proposal. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/amenity%3Dpower_supply The definition (wording can surely be improved): " A place where you can get electrical

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-22 Thread Warin
On 22/06/19 19:16, Colin Smale wrote: On 2019-06-22 10:20, Michael Brandtner via Tagging wrote: I've found this Wikipedia page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorepower There is no shore power tag in OSM yet. But now I'm uncertain if we should also make a difference between shore power and

Re: [Tagging] Which global OSM mailing list for the "community index"?

2019-06-22 Thread marc marc
Le 22.06.19 à 10:31, bkil a écrit : > I wonder why nobody has created a gateway > to merge all discussions nabble.com/ do the job (but you can only merge ml/forum only ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] paid ferry - fee or toll tag

2019-06-22 Thread bkil
My answer reflected on Paul's suggestion of introducing yet another term (fare=*) to more closely match common vocabulary. I wouldn't recommend merging tolls, sorry if you read it like that. On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 11:10 AM Colin Smale wrote: > On 2019-06-22 10:38, bkil wrote: > > If we step

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=power_supply

2019-06-22 Thread Michael Brandtner via Tagging
Thank you for your comments so far. I've now written a proposal. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/amenity%3Dpower_supply The definition (wording can surely be improved):" A place where you can get electrical power." I've not taken into account your discussion about different

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-22 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 at 02:28, marc marc wrote: socket key is probably the most successful but for charging stations, > the information is missing if it is a plug or a plug at the end of a > cable on the terminal side. > Terminology gets messy. Different parts of the world and different

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-22 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 at 01:44, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Wow, what a nightmare! > Yep. New tag needed: nightmare=*. Here, if a camping ground / caravan park has power to a site, it will be a > standard layout Oz plug, but rated at 15A, not 10, so you will need a 15A > lead to connect to it,

Re: [Tagging] paid ferry - fee or toll tag

2019-06-22 Thread Tobias Zwick
Colin Smale, this is a very wise thing to say. I think this is often a missing element in tagging discussions. Is there a tagging suggestion guidelines page on the wiki? If yes, this is definitely one point that should be added. And if not, maybe we (people on the mailing list) should create

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-22 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-06-22 10:20, Michael Brandtner via Tagging wrote: > I've found this Wikipedia page: > > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorepower > > There is no shore power tag in OSM yet. But now I'm uncertain if we should > also make a difference between shore power and power supply for other

Re: [Tagging] paid ferry - fee or toll tag

2019-06-22 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-06-22 10:38, bkil wrote: > If we step back a bit from our dictionaries, fee=* as a concept is > isomorphic to toll=* (and fare) in this context. Only insofar as they indicate that the user has to pay. "Toll" has a distinct meaning, in the UK at least, that it is (and needs to be)

Re: [Tagging] paid ferry - fee or toll tag

2019-06-22 Thread Warin
On 22/06/19 18:38, bkil wrote: If we step back a bit from our dictionaries, fee=* as a concept is isomorphic to toll=* (and fare) in this context. As all of them could be understood by native speakers and fee=* covers a more general category, it is clearly the better choice. If we consider our

Re: [Tagging] About the diaper key

2019-06-22 Thread bkil
 On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 4:48 AM Satoshi IIDA wrote: > > As my small contribution, switched to changing_table in a baby care > proposal page~ > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/babycare > > > > 2019年6月17日(月) 5:44 Rory : > >> Hi, >> >> On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 16:14:59 +0200,

Re: [Tagging] paid ferry - fee or toll tag

2019-06-22 Thread bkil
If we step back a bit from our dictionaries, fee=* as a concept is isomorphic to toll=* (and fare) in this context. As all of them could be understood by native speakers and fee=* covers a more general category, it is clearly the better choice. If we consider our data users, non-native speakers

Re: [Tagging] Which global OSM mailing list for the "community index"?

2019-06-22 Thread bkil
We should probably list the OSM Forum as well then. OSM Help also uses your OSM credentials. OSM IRC channels do not need credentials - a random alias is sufficient. The OSMF link seems to be more about donations than giving a hand. I'd funnel using these two categories: Primary: * OSM Help *

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-22 Thread Michael Brandtner via Tagging
I've found this Wikipedia page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorepower There is no shore power tag in OSM yet. But now I'm uncertain if we should also make a difference between shore power and power supply for other uses. Am Fr., Juni 21, 2019 at 14:21 schrieb Michael Brandtner via

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-22 Thread bkil
This is what you are looking for, it has been used 160 times: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Ddevice_charging_station Although, I'd probably just unify this with amenity=charging_station and always specify the socket type and voltage. You should only navigate to a charging

Re: [Tagging] wheelchair = hiking

2019-06-22 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
It seems that for paths itself current wheelchair tags are sufficient. For relations it would be nice to distinguish routes specifically for people on wheelchairs and ones marked as passable by people on wheelchairs. 21 Jun 2019, 13:28 by andrea.lattm...@ga-2.it: > So, how should I tag these