Re: [Tagging] How to tag pedestrian lanes?

2019-10-20 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
20 Oct 2019, 19:08 by selfishseaho...@gmail.com: > On Sun, 20 Oct 2019 at 12:42, Tobias Zwick wrote: > >> >> How about: >> >> sidewalk=right >> sidewalk:right:kerb=no >> > > I dislike using these tags for pedestrian lanes for the following > reasons (sorry if i repeat myself): > > * It doesn't m

Re: [Tagging] How to tag pedestrian lanes?

2019-10-20 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
+1 to this tagging scheme. I strongly prefer new tags for additional detail over new incompatible ones. 20 Oct 2019, 19:49 by j...@mueschelsoft.de: > On 20.10.19 12:40, Tobias Zwick wrote: > >> I have seen this kind of sidewalk that is just a marked lane in Germany as >> well, usually as part of

Re: [Tagging] How to tag pedestrian lanes?

2019-10-20 Thread Georg Feddern
Am 20.10.2019 um 23:23 schrieb Clifford Snow: I'm not familiar with the laws of the country the picture [1] listed in the first post on this thread, but the diagonal yellow lines look to me like a don't park here rather than a sidewalk. Even the one pedestrian in the picture isn't walking the d

Re: [Tagging] Areas of bare soil (clay, silt, loam) such as badlands?

2019-10-20 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
That sounds right. So natural=badlands could be used on a node, or on an area covering the heavily-eroded, bare soil area of the landform? On 10/21/19, Mark Wagner wrote: > On Sun, 20 Oct 2019 09:19:10 +0900 > Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > >> How should areas of bare soil, such as badlands, be tagge

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (phone)

2019-10-20 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
> Whatever else may have been changed in this proposal, the number format wasn't one of those changes Sorry, I didn't realize this. I was reading the proposal and assumed that the "Content" section was supposed to be different. Valor Naram, could you clarify what specific changes will be made to

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (phone)

2019-10-20 Thread Paul Allen
On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 at 00:58, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 21/10/19 09:52, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > > > For example, requiring the country code in all phone numbers would not > > be standard practice in Indonesia or the USA, since people in these > > countries very rarely make phon

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (phone)

2019-10-20 Thread Warin
On 21/10/19 09:52, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: I'm in favor of deprecating contact:phone now (and the other contact:XXX duplicates later), but I don't know about your other proposed changes. For example, requiring the country code in all phone numbers would not be standard practice in Indonesia or t

Re: [Tagging] How to tag pedestrian lanes?

2019-10-20 Thread John Willis via Tagging
> On Oct 21, 2019, at 2:08 AM, Markus wrote: > > * It doesn't make sense: if it doesn't have a kerb (or any other > physical barrier) it isn't a sidewalk. This is the most important information. it should be tagged as a “footway lane” or “pedestrian lane” or similar. Javbw a "sidewalk l

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (phone)

2019-10-20 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 6:54 PM Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > For example, requiring the country code in all phone numbers would not > be standard practice in Indonesia or the USA, since people in these > countries very rarely make phone calls to other countries. Including the country code in the US,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (phone)

2019-10-20 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
I'm in favor of deprecating contact:phone now (and the other contact:XXX duplicates later), but I don't know about your other proposed changes. For example, requiring the country code in all phone numbers would not be standard practice in Indonesia or the USA, since people in these countries very

Re: [Tagging] How to tag pedestrian lanes?

2019-10-20 Thread Volker Schmidt
I think in bicycle-OSM we have kind of an tacitly agreed approach: bicycle lanes (divided from motorised traffic by a painted line) are generally mapped on the road way whereas separate parallel cycleways are tagged either on the road way or as separate way, with the former often being the first, f

Re: [Tagging] Areas of bare soil (clay, silt, loam) such as badlands?

2019-10-20 Thread Mark Wagner
On Sun, 20 Oct 2019 09:19:10 +0900 Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > How should areas of bare soil, such as badlands, be tagged? > > Currently there are documented tags for dry areas of bedrock, stones > and sand: > > natural=bare_rock, natural=shingle, natural=scree, and natural=sand > > For tidal a

Re: [Tagging] How to tag pedestrian lanes?

2019-10-20 Thread Clifford Snow
I'm not familiar with the laws of the country the picture [1] listed in the first post on this thread, but the diagonal yellow lines look to me like a don't park here rather than a sidewalk. Even the one pedestrian in the picture isn't walking the diagonal yellow lines. Can someone confirm that tho

Re: [Tagging] How to tag pedestrian lanes?

2019-10-20 Thread Markus
On Sun, 20 Oct 2019 at 19:52, Jan Michel wrote: > > I also prefer this kind of tagging. I don't see a reason to invent a > fully new tag for this - it is an area meant just for pedestrians just > like a sidewalk. [...] I don't know how it is elsewhere, but in Switzerland vehicles are allowed to d

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (phone)

2019-10-20 Thread Valor Naram via Tagging
Hey, I finally opened the voting "Make `phone` Tag default for tagging telephone numbers in OSM and deprecating contact:phone`. Please place your voice at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Discussions/tagging/contact:phone_or_phone. The Voting will be closed at 5th Novembre 2019. Please read t

Re: [Tagging] How to tag pedestrian lanes?

2019-10-20 Thread Jan Michel
On 20.10.19 12:40, Tobias Zwick wrote: I have seen this kind of sidewalk that is just a marked lane in Germany as well, usually as part of parking lots or larger company grounds. How about: sidewalk=right sidewalk:right:kerb=no sidewalk:right:surface=asphalt I also prefer this kind of taggin

Re: [Tagging] How to tag pedestrian lanes?

2019-10-20 Thread Markus
On Sun, 20 Oct 2019 at 12:24, Georg Feddern wrote: > > Why not in analogy to cycleway=track|lane|... > sidewalk=track|lane|... This would require a huge amount of retagging. (There are currently over 1.5 millions uses of sidewalk=*.) On Sun, 20 Oct 2019 at 19:11, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > We ha

Re: [Tagging] How to tag pedestrian lanes?

2019-10-20 Thread Markus
On Sun, 20 Oct 2019 at 12:42, Tobias Zwick wrote: > > How about: > > sidewalk=right > sidewalk:right:kerb=no I dislike using these tags for pedestrian lanes for the following reasons (sorry if i repeat myself): * It doesn't make sense: if it doesn't have a kerb (or any other physical barrier)

Re: [Tagging] How to tag pedestrian lanes?

2019-10-20 Thread Volker Schmidt
We have a widely used scheme for tagging cycle lanes/paths on the road way: cycleway=lane|track with variants. Extrapolating from that for the pedestrian "lane" seems obvious to me: sidewalk=lane (plus variants). For separate sidewalks there is sidewalk=yes (plus variants) Why invent something dif

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - sunbathing

2019-10-20 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, 20 Oct 2019 at 12:43, Vɑdɪm wrote: > I think you guys forgot one thing: the OSM is not specifically about UK, > Australia or any other country. It's a global map. > I didn't forget that. I'm pretty sure some of the others didn't forget that either. > > In your region you may perhaps yo

Re: [Tagging] Using Corine Land Cover definitions for land cover in OSM?

2019-10-20 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Landcover classification systems do not match directly with current OpenStreetMap data and tagging. Our tagging system developed organically, based on what people would call map features in ordinary British English, so we have tags like natural=wood, rather than natural=wetland, natural=heath, rath

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - sunbathing

2019-10-20 Thread Vɑdɪm
I think you guys forgot one thing: the OSM is not specifically about UK, Australia or any other country. It's a global map. In your region you may perhaps you may not have any dedicated areas for sunbathing, so -- don't use the tag. On the other hand I could imagine there are some countries you co

Re: [Tagging] How to tag pedestrian lanes?

2019-10-20 Thread Tobias Zwick
I have seen this kind of sidewalk that is just a marked lane in Germany as well, usually as part of parking lots or larger company grounds. How about: sidewalk=right sidewalk:right:kerb=no sidewalk:right:surface=asphalt The most important thing is to tag whether there is a sidewalk or not. Re

Re: [Tagging] How to tag pedestrian lanes?

2019-10-20 Thread Georg Feddern
Am 20.10.2019 um 11:24 schrieb Markus: On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 at 23:02, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: +1, or e.g. sidewalk:right=lane there are a few instances tagged like this: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/sidewalk%3Aright=lane 18 out of 30 are additionally tagged sidewalk=right. I think

Re: [Tagging] How to tag pedestrian lanes?

2019-10-20 Thread Markus
On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 at 23:02, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > +1, or e.g. sidewalk:right=lane > there are a few instances tagged like this: > https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/sidewalk%3Aright=lane 18 out of 30 are additionally tagged sidewalk=right. I think it's better to keep "sidewalk" ou