Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - RFC - Military Bases

2020-12-11 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
But a Russian naval base would presumably be tagged "operator=Военно-морской флот" - if you do not read the Cyrrillic alphabet this is illegible. In Japan it would be "operator=海上自衛隊" All names are opaque to computers, so we use standardized tags which can be translated one time, instead of

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - RFC - Military Bases

2020-12-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 12. Dec 2020, at 00:12, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Going out there a bit, but I could also see cases where somebody can see > fighter jets taking off & landing, so it's obviously an Air Force base or a Navy base, or Marines. Look for a runway if you are interested

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - RFC - Military Bases

2020-12-11 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 at 08:06, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > do we really need military_service=army given that these services will > differ according to the country? We can tag operator =United States Army or > “United States Marine Corps” and keep lists in the wiki for standardized > names of

Re: [Tagging] How to put a name tag on an area with more than one type?

2020-12-11 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Sorry, ignore me as it looks like the question had already been answered. When I opened the message, your original question was the only thing there, but when I answered, all the other earlier replies appeared? No idea what's going on there? Guess gmail must be having a bad morning! Thanks

Re: [Tagging] How to put a name tag on an area with more than one type?

2020-12-11 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Does each bog & marsh have it's own name, or are just different surfaces inside one big named wetland? Thanks Graeme PS & please don't get frustrated & give up on trying to make progress! On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 at 02:11, Anders Torger wrote: > Hello, > > I was on this list a while back

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - RFC - Military Bases

2020-12-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 10. Dec 2020, at 22:55, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > military_service=army do we really need military_service=army given that these services will differ according to the country? We can tag operator =United States Army or “United States Marine Corps” and keep lists

Re: [Tagging] How to put a name tag on an area with more than one type?

2020-12-11 Thread Anders Torger
Thanks I'll do it this way then, this actually works and even gets rendered, although with OSM-Carto it becomes a name tag in each separate part so not exactly beautiful, but the data is there. /Anders On 2020-12-11 18:07, Christoph Hormann wrote: Anders Torger hat am 11.12.2020 17:07

Re: [Tagging] How to put a name tag on an area with more than one type?

2020-12-11 Thread Anders Torger
Unfortunately I don't think that is possible. Multipolygons may only contain ways that have either role as inner or as outer. It may not contain other relations (still possible to upload, but not considered right according to the wiki). What should the ways be? We can't make the separate

Re: [Tagging] How to put a name tag on an area with more than one type?

2020-12-11 Thread Peter Elderson
Actually, there is no Rijn in Rotterdam. But that does not change the argument. Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 11 dec. 2020 om 18:11 heeft Christoph Hormann het > volgende geschreven: > >  > >> Anders Torger hat am 11.12.2020 17:07 geschrieben: >> >> The least bad way I've come up with is to

Re: [Tagging] How to put a name tag on an area with more than one type?

2020-12-11 Thread Brian M. Sperlongano
Hello Anders, I would recommend creating a multipolygon relation (type=multipolygon) with each of the wetland pieces, and set the name= and appropriate natural= and wetland= tags on the relation. On Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 11:11 AM Anders Torger wrote: > Hello, > > I was on this list a while back

Re: [Tagging] How to put a name tag on an area with more than one type?

2020-12-11 Thread Christoph Hormann
> Anders Torger hat am 11.12.2020 17:07 geschrieben: > > The least bad way I've come up with is to just name all polygons > belonging to the same wetlands the same, That is widely considered to be the correct way. It is established practice that mapping things like forest, wetland,

[Tagging] How to put a name tag on an area with more than one type?

2020-12-11 Thread Anders Torger
Hello, I was on this list a while back expressing some frustration over limitations when tagging nature and thought about getting involved in a process for change, but I came to realize that it's not feasible for me in my current life situation, so I've decided to continue be a normal mapper

Re: [Tagging] edit war related to tagging of a bus-only major road

2020-12-11 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
It is very unusual, but I think that highway=secondary may be actually bus only. And I would never describe highway=secondary as a special type of highway=service Dec 11, 2020, 14:21 by jan...@gmail.com: > I think "service" is more appropriate than highway=secondary. Highway=service > has in

Re: [Tagging] edit war related to tagging of a bus-only major road

2020-12-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
I agree that I would probably not use highway=service in this case, I imagine the way is important for pedestrians as well? This being said, the current tagging with access=yes, motor_vehicle=no and bus=private seems ok (routing will work as expected, if service roads are taken into account),

Re: [Tagging] edit war related to tagging of a bus-only major road

2020-12-11 Thread Janko Mihelić
I think "service" is more appropriate than highway=secondary. Highway=service has in my opinion a wider scope than secondary. In a way, secondary is a special type of highway=service (that's the way I look at it, though other mappers probably don't look at it that way). So if a road can not be