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> On 3 Oct 2022, at 07:55, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
> wrote:
>
>
> - primary feature [1]
> - main key [2]
> - primary key [3]
> - feature tag [4]
>
> 1) Are these synonyms (except for the key/tag distinction)?
>
>
> yes
> what about cases where multiple features are
A feature is not a tag or a key, it's an object in the OSM database. I don't
know which features are primary, secondary, ... and why. Anyway, the term
primary feature is not equivalent to main key or main tag.
Talking about e.g. roads, the main key is highway= because that key defines the
featu
HI,
I don't think this is a drinking fountain, another mapper does.. what is
your opinion?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/09/Water_flowing_from_drinking_water_tap.jpg/375px-Water_flowing_from_drinking_water_tap.jpg
Not .. not after water quality nor if it is a tap e
I guess Primary key and Main key are the same.
Peter Elderson
> Op 3 okt. 2022 om 04:06 heeft Minh Nguyen het
> volgende geschreven:
>
> Vào lúc 10:36 2022-10-02, martianfreeloader đã viết:
>> Hi,
>> I'm unsure if I'm using correct terminology. I have come across these terms
>> in the OSM e
On 3/10/22 18:06, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
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On 3 Oct 2022, at 07:55, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
wrote:
- primary feature [1]
- main key [2]
- primary key [3]
- feature tag [4]
1) Are these synonyms (except for the key/tag dis
On 3/10/22 19:01, Peter Elderson wrote:
A feature is not a tag or a key, it's an object in the OSM database. I don't
know which features are primary, secondary, ... and why. Anyway, the term
primary feature is not equivalent to main key or main tag.
Feature = real world object.
Real world
Oct 3, 2022, 10:11 by 61sundow...@gmail.com:
>
> A stream would not normal start and finish on a road .. so that would be
> a separate way compared to the road.. and I'd put ford on that section
> of road..
>
>
Normally yes, but there are cases where road is going in stream bed.
S
As the another mapper who was mentioned
I am not entirely sure is it drinking fountain, but what I know:
- it is intended to directly provide drinking water to people in city center
- it is possible to drink directly from it (but that may be unfeasible for
example for someone older and with reduce
Added "no drinking" water tap example at
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dwater_tap#Examples
(if someone has a better photo: feel free to replace this example, water
tap is not well visible there
or reply to this posting with link of freely licensed image, preferably already
up
On 03/10/2022 06:51, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:
Oct 2, 2022, 23:30 by dieterdre...@gmail.com:
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On 2 Oct 2022, at 19:40, martianfreeloader
wrote:
- primary feature [1]
- main key [2]
- primary key [3]
- featu
On Oct 3, 2022, at 1:55 AM, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
wrote:
> It seems that entire drinking water scheme is a horrific mess
> and filled with confusing terms, many of them misinterpreted
> by mappers, what makes it even more confusing :)
>
> The mentioned discussion concerns
> https://wik
Le 03.10.22 à 10:47, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging a écrit :
there are cases where road is going in stream bed
imho only one main feature/objet : the stream bed
and car use it, a bit like a bicycle uses a road.
but we don't really have a secondary tag to say that
the stream bed is usable by a
Hello,
Le 03.10.22 à 07:51, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging a écrit :
power pole + street lamp + stork's nest?
having more than one main tag on an object is in my opinion
a practice not to be encougered, it's again one feature = one object:
you add the information that it is made of aluminum or
On 02.10.2022 23:44, Paveł Tyślacki wrote:
|There are link to proposal and voiting (belarusian)
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Be:Belarus_language_issues/Migration_proposal#%D0%93%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B5|
There are many disturbing opposing votes claimi
Thank you all for the many insightful replies to my question!
What I've learnt so far:
1) A feature is something in the physical world. This is well documented
in the wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Features
2) There is no such thing as a "primary feature".
3) The terms "main key",
On 1/10/22 09:45, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 at 09:32, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
wrote:
I would not expect
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Bubbler.jpg
to be a water tap, but I am not a native speaker.
Yes, quite definitely a water tap!
H
I would avoid "primary key", because that is a term from database
management systems. It means the identifying attribute (Id) of an entity,
usually a unique identifier with an index (primary index), used to retrieve
records and to link the entity (table) to other tables. Something else
entirely.
M
On 3/10/22 21:37, martianfreeloader wrote:
Thank you all for the many insightful replies to my question!
What I've learnt so far:
1) A feature is something in the physical world. This is well
documented in the wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Features
2) There is no such thing as a
On 3/10/22 22:01, Peter Elderson wrote:
I would avoid "primary key", because that is a term from database
management systems. It means the identifying attribute (Id) of an
entity, usually a unique identifier with an index (primary index),
used to retrieve records and to link the entity (table)
On 3/10/22 21:14, Marc_marc wrote:
Hello,
Le 03.10.22 à 07:51, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging a écrit :
power pole + street lamp + stork's nest?
having more than one main tag on an object is in my opinion
a practice not to be encougered, it's again one feature = one object:
you add the infor
An interesting collective of comments on 'bubbler' from Australia
https://www.macquariedictionary.com.au/resources/aus/word/map/search/word/bubbler/The%20Riverina/
On 1/10/22 11:03, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
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On 1 Oct 2022, at 02:38, stevea wrote:
There's water_tap, ther
On Mon, 3 Oct 2022, 12:20 Marc_marc, wrote:
> imho only one main feature/objet : the stream bed
> and car use it, a bit like a bicycle uses a road.
>
OT, but I cannot let it pass:
Roads, in most cases, are dedicated to vehicles (including bicycles),
pedestrians, horse riders, ..., unless there ar
Most of places I would say on the ground presented in belarusian if we talk
about toponims: cities and villages, rivers. Streets depends, for example,
in Minks (capital of Belarus) it mostly belarusian on the ground.
Government offices mostly has shields with two languages. For toponims
using belar
A practical comment from an end user: it is helpful to know if a
drinking-water point can be used to fill water bottles. Bubblers are tricky
in that regard.
BTW: a shower in many parts of the world may not "waste" drinking water,
for example by using rain water.
On Mon, 3 Oct 2022, 13:47 Warin, <
Hello,
Le 03.10.22 à 12:27, Mariusz a écrit :
they cannot write the most frequently displayed text tag (name) in Belarusian?
I have no idea which of you is right about the main language of the
signs (especially if you read the same paragraph from WP to the end,
about the main mother tongue)
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Am 03.10.2022 um 08:26 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging:
I used to consider deprecating of amenity=hospital as clearly bad
idea, even
if done in far future
But healthcare tag seems to be a good idea to me and I even ended using it
in one of tags that I promoted/proposed/invented.
But not
I strongly support this.
On 03/10/2022 16:04, Sebastian Martin Dicke wrote:
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I just created a proposal page to tag citadels:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Citadel
The proposed tag is castle_type=citadel.
All feedback is welcome. Feel free to share it here, but I prefer to
discuss the proposal on the Community Forum and on the discussion page on
the
Am Mo., 3. Okt. 2022 um 22:30 Uhr schrieb Casper Kersten <
casperkerst...@gmail.com>:
> I just created a proposal page to tag citadels:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Citadel
> The proposed tag is castle_type=citadel.
>
> All feedback is welcome. Feel free to share it here
@Martin Koppenhoefer That's a good question, and one I will surely address
on the proposal page.
The short answer is that a fortress is the fortified city centre with its
city walls and defensive towers, and a citadel is a stand-alone
fortification inside or on the edge of it.
A good example is S
P.s. Citadels and fortresses were complementary for a city's defence, but
do not always coexist. Also, some fortresses have been (partially)
demolished but the citadel have been left largely intact, as is the case in
Lille, France.
Op ma 3 okt. 2022 om 22:49 schreef Casper Kersten :
> @Martin Kop
On 03/10/2022 12:55, Volker Schmidt wrote:
On Mon, 3 Oct 2022, 12:20 Marc_marc, wrote:
imho only one main feature/objet : the stream bed
and car use it, a bit like a bicycle uses a road.
OT, but I cannot let it pass:
Roads, in most cases, are dedicated to vehicles (including bicycl
Am Mo., 3. Okt. 2022 um 10:17 Uhr schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>:
>
> what about cases where multiple features are tagged on one object?
>
> For example stream + road tagged on one line?
>
>
> 2 primary features, identified by feature tags, represented by one
> OpenStreetMap element. Main k
Am Mo., 3. Okt. 2022 um 12:40 Uhr schrieb martianfreeloader <
martianfreeloa...@posteo.net>:
> 2) There is no such thing as a "primary feature".
hm, this seems strange, OSMF has the term in their collective database
guideline, it could be seen as important to understand whether the license
appl
On 03/10/2022 09:11, Warin wrote:
2 primary features, identified by feature tags, represented by one
OpenStreetMap element. Main key for stream is waterway, for road it
is highway. In the osm2pgsql standard style, both are primary keys.
The guide says 'one feature = one OSM entry'. I
Am Mo., 3. Okt. 2022 um 10:07 Uhr schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>:
> I don't think this is a drinking fountain, another mapper does.. what is
> your opinion?
>
>
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/09/Water_flowing_from_drinking_water_tap.jpg/375px-Water_flowing_from_dri
The guideline refers to a list of "primary features" which lists all features
with main key and values. No explanotion or list of non-primary features. The
text of the guideline says a primary feature is the key-value pair remaining
when all the attributes are gone.
In short, "primary feature"
Intriguing. Thanks for digging this one up!
However, I can't make much sense of it.
The use of the term "feature" in the OSMF document is very different to
the definition in the wiki page "Features"
Yet again, the wiki page "Map features" (which is linked from the
"Features" wiki page) uses
On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 19:01, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <
tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
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> or reply to this posting with link of freely licensed image, preferably
> already
> uploaded to Wikimedia Commons
>
How about this one, although it is more of a fountain than a tap.
https://commons
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