Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

2022-11-18 Thread Cartographer10 via Tagging
Thanks for the reminder, I had a busy week so I didn't have time to change it. Here it is  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Announce_proposals_on_the_new_forum 19 nov. 2022 02:56 van mnalis-openstreetmaplist_at_voyager_hr_prfkut...@simplelogin.co: > This email failed anti-

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

2022-11-18 Thread Dimitar
> What evidence do you have that is the case?  What is being provided is energy, not power. From Cambridge dictionary: power - electricity, especially when considering its use or production energy - the power from something such as electricity or oil that can do work, such as providing light an

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

2022-11-18 Thread Minh Nguyen
Vào lúc 17:39 2022-11-18, Matija Nalis đã viết: That way, maximum reach will be accomplished, and all "people could decide for themselves where they wish to communicate". So instead of say 30 messages on tagging mailing list for some proposal, we can have 5 messages on tagging ML, 2 on Discourse,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

2022-11-18 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 at 11:43, Matija Nalis < mnalis-openstreetmapl...@voyager.hr> wrote: > Do you spot the problem here? > Because I do. > Certainly do! Going back to what I mentioned earlier: On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 at 08:21, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > So far, there have been 23 responses to

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

2022-11-18 Thread Matija Nalis
Have you managed to do it yet? Could you post the URL, if so? On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 07:06:10 +0100 (CET), Cartographer10 via Tagging wrote: > Thanks for the reminder. I indeed forgot to update the title after i changed > the proposal. Will do that soon. > >> But before we get that far, I recomm

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

2022-11-18 Thread Matija Nalis
On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 08:49:46 -0500, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: > On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 2:49 AM Marc_marc wrote: >> We can see it with the osm-fr experience: the immature forum has split >> the community, far from federating > > Thank you for clearly describing the root cause of your objection

Re: [Tagging] care services

2022-11-18 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 at 08:45, Matija Nalis < mnalis-openstreetmapl...@voyager.hr> wrote: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:craft=gardener > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:craft=cleaning The problem with using the various craft= tags, is that a lot of these sort of home-ass

[Tagging] Forum Discussion: Changing RFC time for proposals containing deprecation

2022-11-18 Thread Dian Ågesson
Hey list, I have started a conversation that may be of interest on the community forum. I am cross posting it here as I know many are still transitioning to the new platform. https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/changing-rfc-time-for-proposals-including-deprecation/5661 Dian__

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

2022-11-18 Thread Mike Thompson
On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 3:05 PM Matija Nalis < mnalis-openstreetmapl...@voyager.hr> wrote: > > Also, if being advanced consumer with higher power limits, you ALSO (in > addition to > two things above) have to pay for reactive power too, according to > cos(phi) > (beware of those inductive loads li

Re: [Tagging] care services

2022-11-18 Thread Matija Nalis
On Thu, 17 Nov 2022 18:39:07 +0100, Georges Dutreix via Tagging wrote: > How would you tag the office of a company providing personnal services > or care services at home, > like gardener, https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:craft=gardener > cleaning, https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/T

Re: [Tagging] care services

2022-11-18 Thread Jmapb
On 11/18/2022 5:07 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 at 05:58, Jmapb wrote: I think office=home_aide might be good. ("home_care" sounds like it's the home that's being cared for.) How about =home_assistance? Hey, that's not bad! J __

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

2022-11-18 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 at 08:05, Matija Nalis < mnalis-openstreetmapl...@voyager.hr> wrote: > > However, "energy company" is not restricted to electrical energy. > Over here in Croatia, another popular energent is natural gas. > > In fact, many of "electrical energy providers" are also > "natural gas

Re: [Tagging] care services

2022-11-18 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 at 05:58, Jmapb wrote: > I think office=home_aide might be good. > ("home_care" sounds like it's the home that's being cared for.) How about =home_assistance? Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

2022-11-18 Thread Matija Nalis
On Fri, 18 Nov 2022 14:31:42 -0700, Mike Thompson wrote: > Technically what the electric utility is selling is energy, not power. One > gets billed for kilowatt-hours, not kilowatts. Well, it depends on the country. Over here in Croatia, you have to pay for max power too (by choosing which pow

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

2022-11-18 Thread Mike Thompson
On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 2:46 PM Dimitar wrote: > Energy and power are used quite interchangeably and power is the better > word for it. > What evidence do you have that is the case? What is being provided is energy, not power. ...and if we mean electricity, why not use that in the tag? > > > A

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

2022-11-18 Thread Dimitar
Energy and power are used quite interchangeably and power is the better word for it. > A more general issue is that often utilities provide more than one service.  Xcel, which operates in parts of the US, provides both electricity and natural gas (the latter which is technically energy too). 

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

2022-11-18 Thread Mike Thompson
Technically what the electric utility is selling is energy, not power. One gets billed for kilowatt-hours, not kilowatts. See [0]. However, colloquially, the terms power and energy when it comes to electric utilities are used interchangeably, although "power company" seems to be favored vs. "ene

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

2022-11-18 Thread Matija Nalis
Regarding deprecation of old tags, please follow this Discourse thread too: https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/changing-rfc-time-for-proposals-including-deprecation/5661 On Fri, 18 Nov 2022 22:04:59 +0200, Dimitar wrote: > Link to the community forum thread: > https://community.openstreetm

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

2022-11-18 Thread Dimitar
Link to the community forum thread: https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/feature-proposal-rfc-power-utility-offices/5659 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] care services

2022-11-18 Thread Jmapb
On 11/17/2022 2:23 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote: Vào lúc 10:51 2022-11-17, Philip Barnes đã viết: On Thu, 2022-11-17 at 19:21 +0100, Georges Dutreix wrote: Le 17/11/2022 à 18:52, Philip Barnes a écrit : I have used office=home_care for a care company. I found as well amenity=personal_service used

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

2022-11-18 Thread Dimitar
Hello. I’m [proposing](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Power_utility_office) to introduce a new tag for power utility offices (office=power_utility) and deprecate the existing one (office=energy_supplier). The rationale behind this idea is that energy_supplier can be con