On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 8:20 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick
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> But there are camp sites with luxury onsite tents = glamping; while other
> camp sites also have onsite tents that only offer basic accommodation =
> camping.
Aa very modest hotel and an extremely luxurious hotel are both tourism=hotel
On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 9:22 PM, Yuri Astrakhan wrote:
> Nelson, there are several places I have seen in our wiki, e.g. [1], which
> discourage duplication of information if it can be avoided. name is a
> special case - it helps mappers to quickly identify what the object
> represents. If we duplic
On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 7:35 PM, Yuri Astrakhan wrote:
> Why would you want railroad stations tagged differently
> and duplicate the same wikidata tag on every part of it?
Having the same "wikidata" on every part representing an object seems
to be as correct as having "name" on every part of a hig
On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Mike H <1jg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The third case was for places that are designated to host festivals such as
> fairgrounds, showgrounds, etc... These sites will often be used for other
> uses when they are not hosting festivals, but they are primarily built for
>
On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 5:33 PM, François Lacombe
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> Well okay
> Given problem is how can we query maxspeed like :
> [Maxspeed>25] ?
Maybe the query tools could simply implement a function that converts
number+unit to a numeric value only?
[to_number(maxspeed) > 25]
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On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 10:38 AM, Mateusz Konieczny
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> I decided to use still_visible_on=Bing rather than note="It is still visible
> on Bing" as with second
"note" should already encompass this:
"A note is used to inform other mappers about non-obvious information
about an element, the aut
Sometimes some doubts about highway=speed_camera arise here in Brazil.
The most recent discussion is about:
1) In iD "speed camera" was translated as "speed sensor" in Portuguese
and some people are mapping where the ground sensor (which detects the
vehicle) is located at the road, instead unders
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 10:47 AM, OSMDoudou
<19b350d2-b1b3-4edb-ad96-288ea1238...@gmx.com> wrote:
> According to this description in French [1], to be defined as "oratoire" /
> "shrine", there should be a cavity to exhibit something (with a cross, a
> roof, etc.).
Maybe the definition of a "shri
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 10:28 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
wrote:
> The wiki has an example for a wayside shrine which I wouldn't classify as
> "shrine", it's rather a column, no space inside:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Eleonorens%C3%A4ule_Penzing.jpg
If a symbol is sacred (even if it'
On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 4:18 PM, Dave F wrote:
> I recently seen a variety of keys being given the value of 'unknown'.
> I'm struggling to see its purpose. It confirms nothing & adds no value to
> the database. Am I missing something?
You are right.
It's interesting if you take a look at some val
On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
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> man_made=surveillance and atm=yes
But then it looks like a surveillance equipment with an ATM :-)
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On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 3:29 PM, Fernando Trebien
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> But I didn't find any discussion on this here. Do you agree that it is
> adequate to combine amenity=atm with man_made=surveillance on the same
> element?
No...
It could use another tag or namespace for this, but not man_made=surveillance
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 6:34 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There looks to be a duplication taking place (map.me problem ?) where both
> the name=* tag and name:en (the local language)=* are being entered as the
> same value.
There is an old discussion about this at
https://github.com/
On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Éric Gillet wrote:
>> light:flash=yes (80 uses)
>
> Didn't find this one, but sure it's better to use an already-used tag.
Here:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Key:light_source#Miscellaneous_properties
light:flash=pattern + light:colour=yel
Is there a way to represent emergency phones (emergency=phone) which
have a blinking/flashing light (so they can be identified at night,
with fog, etc), please?
If not, what would be a good tag for this? (something like blinking_light=yes)
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On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 11:24 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Does it make sense?
From what I understand from
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomatic_mission#Extraterritoriality,
no.
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On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 9:54 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
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> What do you think about the draft for a key page (above)?
It seems a good start :-)
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On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 5:45 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
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> admittedly there is not much documentation in the wiki, there isn't even a
> key page, only a redirect to boundary=administrative with this paragraph:
(...)
> Besides administrative boundaries, the admin_level=* tag may also be used on
Complementing, why not just use ownership
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ownership, operator
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator or something else,
instead using a tag created for borders?
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On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
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> I don't see a problem to add admin_level on government offices.
>
> If you are looking for boundaries you will have to look for a combination of
> boundary=administrative with a proper admin level (while in the past looking
> only on
Does it really make sense to have admin_level with office=government?
While trying to understand why an area with admin_level=4 appeared in
a government office here I saw this:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key%3Agovernment&type=revision&diff=1465882&oldid=1346026
Which came f
Which is the most appropiated/neutral language for international
objects? (outside countries, in ocean, etc)
For example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/47301187
When I first created the Point Nemo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_of_inaccessibility#Oceanic_pole_of_inaccessibility
obje
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Greg Troxel wrote:
> I favor "landuse=disused".
English is not my primary language, but it seems a little contradictory here.
"landuse" says that a specific piece of land is being used for something.
Then "disused" says that it's being used for nothing.
use = no
On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 12:58 PM, wrote:
> I can't find any ports in my OSM data. I'm afraid I just forgot to add this
> tag in styles when import.
> Anyway, what is the correct way to get ports?
They are "harbours"
You can take a look at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Harbour
Also, we have
On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Mike Thompson wrote:
> What about just a "ele" tag?
"ele" without any other attribute is valid?
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I really don't know if the proper term is "altimetric quota" in English, sorry.
What we have are some places where the elevation at some points were
measured. It's similar to man_made=survey_point but without any
physical objects or marks there; somebody just measured the elevation
at that point a
It's the second time that we are having a major discussion here in
Brazil, on how to tag highways located in "dangerous" areas.
For example, some people consider slums and other communities as
dangerous (since there is a risk of being robbed or even killed) and
would like to don't have the router c
On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
wrote:
> this whole "official name" story isn't completely obvious either. Who is the
> entity to decide on the name?
The city grew up from a small village, without a city hall. People
named (who knows how) the streets and they stayed named like
On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Michał Brzozowski wrote:
> I too thought it has a troll-tag potential. But if the name's on the ground...
> A similar thing that came to my mind some time ago are named alleys on
> allotment gardens. These are not official names, yet they're on the
> ground. It'd be
Situation: there is a city where all the streets are named (using the
"name" tag).
Some of the names are official (recognized by the city hall, by law,
etc) and some are not yet officially recognized.
Is there a way to differentiate official names from non-official?
Using only official_name in th
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
> Seems like an actual temporary road tag, not a tag that which is temporary,
> but a road itself that is temporary, to get around a permanent road that's
> under long-term construction, would be useful.
It's actually a temporary tag.
From htt
Hi!
Do we have any need for "converted_by"
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/converted_by#values or it could
be discarded while modifying an object, exactly what we already do
with "created_by" and some other tags? (ie, we won't mass remove the
tag, but only drop it while editing an object wi
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:08 PM, Janko Mihelić wrote:
> But attributing internet access to a park seems strange. You can't complain
> to someone that you have bad signal at your bench. I would rather map it as
> a point if it's in the open.
Nor you can complain if it's mapped as a node inside the
We are having a discussion in talk-br about internet_access in parks
and other open areas.
From http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:internet_access and from
what I understand, it's a characteristic of the place/object (so it
should not exist without a building, amenity, tourism, shop, leisure
o
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Richard Z. wrote:
> not all of the dams are man_made, beavers are busy builders.
I want to be the first one tagging a beaver_made=dam :-)
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On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Martin Vonwald wrote:
> Is it just me or is currently the whole planet flooded on the main map? At
> least at zoom level 1-6. Starting with 7 countries reappear.
It's flooded, yes.
(but tagging isn't the proper place to ask this :-))
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On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Rainer Fügenstein wrote:
> during the draft stage, I (we) couldn't come up with an expression that
> covered everything that might one day be transported in a pipeline.
"fluid"?
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On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Никита wrote:
> reduced cpu load for database because there no need to compute smart regexes
You know that it's always a trade-off, right?
While the CPU usage *could* be lowered, disk usage/IO and network
traffic could increase.
There is no magic with your approa
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Никита wrote:
> Agree, there no regexes at first. But is it possible to query this tagging
> scheme? Lets say you have
> color[1]=purple
> color[2]=orange
> color[3]=green
>
> How do you query for green in overpass? In JOSM?
What he said:
=
I also think tool
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Никита wrote:
> But again, how do you query then? Query for red? color[*]=red? Regexes
> again.
He is representing an array where [1] is the first position. There is
no need for regexes.
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On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 9:36 AM, John Willis wrote:
> I bet a lot of people, myself included, simply uncheck the box (making it no)
> rather than the trash can to delete the tag. I bet that is where a lot of
> them are coming from.
This is what happened here
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/
Why the value description table of
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:aeroway%3Dtaxiway states that
aeroway=taxiway should not be used on areas?
Is there a valid point for this?
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On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Matthijs Melissen
wrote:
> On 20 August 2014 19:25, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Matthijs Melissen
>> wrote:
>>> How do you define forestry or 'managing' forests?
>>
>> With &q
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Matthijs Melissen
wrote:
> How do you define forestry or 'managing' forests?
With "commercial/industrial purpose/usage of the area"?
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On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Janko Mihelić wrote:
> I wouldn't give this tag a general name like landuse=religious. People from
> all over will use this like they see fit, and the tag will soon lose
> meaning. If Japanese temples usually have grounds around them that have
> religious connotati
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
wrote:
> this essentially can be condensed to "length of runway", because this
> implies bigger airplanes, and bigger airplanes tend to fly longer distances.
Not quite.
There are airports with runways having 2100 meters or more that aren't
inte
On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Matthijs Melissen
wrote:
> I also think addr:housename should only be used in countries where the
> housename is part of the address. The only European country where I
> know that is the case is England (maybe Ireland too?). I think the use
> of addr:housename in
Could we define boundary=urban then?
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Can't the wiki page be protected?
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(Please, don't make a voodoo doll of me because I am bringing this
discussion back.)
We had a long discussion in
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2014-April/017247.html
and now I saw in the English wiki
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:noexit this:
"Use the noexit=yes tag o
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Pieren wrote:
> That's the point. Is it "legal" or just the sum of all urbanized
> "landuse" 's (residential, industrial, retail). Does it include
> backyards, garden, orchard, etc ? The limit is often clear on the road
> (first/last building + road sign) but fuzz
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 7:18 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
wrote:
> For settlements (in urbanism / settlement geographic terms) my suggestion is
> to use place=* on an area.
There is one problem when using place: people start to duplicate data.
What is already present/available in the place node is dup
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 8:48 PM, Fernando Trebien
wrote:
> One user has suggested that we use settlement=yes (a proposed tag
> still not voted:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Urban_settlements)
> for that purpose. I'd like to hear your opinions and suggestions.
I was think
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 4:18 PM, André Pirard wrote:
> Strangely, I was just looking at the key when your message popped up. Did
> you look too?
Just saw now that there is one problem in the key: there is no info
about paths (only about tracks and footways, like you said).
Where can this issue
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 2:38 PM, André Pirard wrote:
> Did you make that test: asking people which is track or path? Where walkers
> and tractors would go?
Isn't this the job of the map key?
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On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Janko Mihelić wrote:
> First, I'd rather tag it as building=roof, but even that might not be enough
> because it's not built to be a roof. If the only function is sun blocking,
> maybe some long name like building=tunnel_exit_sun_block.
building=shade seems better
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
> I think an explicit tagging scheme that specifies the correspondence between
> place=* tags and admin_level=* tags is a good thing.
Isn't "admin_level" a property of "boundary=administrative?" (that is
also a an specialization of a "b
Just a doubt here: is there a link for a previous discussion about the
except tag?
For me it seems strange a place that has a turn restriction only for
hgv (and needs to be excepted with everything else).
It should be the opposite: the tag should contains the classes that it
applies to, and not th
So the wiki will stay allowing and saying to use noexit on ways too,
even if the majority agree that it shouldn't be like this?
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Potlatch also allows a general access=designated
The tip/help message is "Permitted, according to signs or specific
local laws" for "designated".
>From what I see the problem are the editors that are allowing this.
People are using acess=designtated with the same meaning as
"access=yes" (ie, it's
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Yves wrote:
> I always assumed it was for street where traffic is allowed for residents or
> delivery, but not for traffic passing through.
This one is "destination" and not "designated" :-)
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On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 1:28 PM, SomeoneElse
wrote:
> What do we think that someone means when they tag something as
> access=designated?
iD allows to easily add only a general "access=designated" (while JOSM
not), for example.
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On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:54 AM, fly wrote:
> On 03.04.2014 21:22, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, fly wrote:
>>> Is noexit=yes useful on ways ?
>>
>> The way has one side that has/is an exit :-)
>> Tagging the whole way as &quo
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, fly wrote:
> Is noexit=yes useful on ways ?
The way has one side that has/is an exit :-)
Tagging the whole way as "noexit=yes" seems strange.
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On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Ilpo Järvinen wrote:
> C'mon guys. It should be done with sensible defaults rather than forcing
> mappers to tell such plain obvious things. Rivers tend to pretty
> universally go below bridges, don't you agree?
Or bridges go above rivers? :-)
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