[Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - Place of mourning (replacing "Chapel of rest")

2020-11-11 Thread wolle68
Dear all, As already discussed, "place of mourning" seems to be a less bad label than "chapel of rest". Therefore please comment on the following new proposal: Place of mourning: a room or building where families and friends can come and view someone who has died, before their funeral Prop

Re: [Tagging] religous bias - Feature Proposal - Voting - (Chapel of rest)

2020-11-09 Thread wolle68
OK, so I haven't really done all the counting, but my impression is that amenity=place_of_mourning has quite some fans while most of the others are at least able to swallow it. Unless anyone explains me that I got that wrong, I think I'll move the proposal there then. Am 05.11.2020 09:43 sch

Re: [Tagging] religous bias - Feature Proposal - Voting - (Chapel of rest)

2020-11-05 Thread wolle68
Thanks for all the interventions. To avoid that the discussion becomes inconclusive again, could everybody rate the following "favourable", "acceptable" or "unfavourable"? amenity=mourning amenity=place_of_mourning amenity=mourning_room amenity=viewing_arrangements amenity=deceased_viewing Am

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Chapel of rest)

2020-11-04 Thread wolle68
Dear all, As there have been no more comments for some time on this proposal, I've set it to voting. Please have a look and vote: Chapel of rest: a room or building where families and friends can come and view someone who has died before their funeral Proposal page: https://wiki.openstreet

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting suspended - (funeral hall=*)

2020-10-03 Thread wolle68
I have suspended the voting, because there - finally - is a real discussion. Am 02.10.2020 18:38 schrieb woll...@posteo.de: Dear list, Please vote on the following proposal: A building or room for funeral ceremonies ancillary to a funeral directors shop or a crematorium (subtag) Proposal pag

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (funeral hall=*)

2020-10-02 Thread wolle68
Dear list, Please vote on the following proposal: A building or room for funeral ceremonies ancillary to a funeral directors shop or a crematorium (subtag) Proposal page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/funeral_hall%3D* Discussion page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Chapel of rest)

2020-09-27 Thread wolle68
"In any case, the proposer seems to feel that chapel of rest should be used only for dedicated buildings and a different tag should be added to indicate a funeral director's with a viewing room." The proposer feels that a subtag should be used for a funeral director's with a viewing room. But the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Chapel of rest)

2020-09-25 Thread wolle68
"Wake rooms" was at one time my favorite, but then I was told that some people might associate "wake" with a particular denomination as well. I'm not a native speaker either, so I can't judge. Something with "viewing" might be nice as well; "funeral viewing room" (between quotation marks) yiel

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Chapel of rest)

2020-09-21 Thread wolle68
Dear all, As already mentioned, another ripple effect of my first proposal has materialised, the need to be able to properly tag chapels of rest as well. Therefore please comment on the following proposal: Chapel of rest: a room or building where families and friends can come and view someo

[Tagging] Chapels-of-rest

2020-09-18 Thread wolle68
Hello, The ripple effect of my proposal for amenity=funeral_hall continues. Now, it appears that we might need a tag for chapels-of-rest, if we want to avoid confusion. Alas, "chapel" will be opposed by some for being religiously connotated. "Funeral home" or "funeral parlor" will end up bei

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (DEPRECATED building=funeral hall)

2020-09-17 Thread wolle68
Dear list, Please comment on the following proposal: Tagging: building=funeral_hall Definition: DEPRECATED, use building=yes combined with amenity=funeral_hall instead (This is an offshoot from my recent proposal for amenity=funeral_hall, due to comments made there.) Proposal page: https:

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (funeral hall=*)

2020-09-17 Thread wolle68
Dear list, Please comment on the following proposal: A building or room for funeral ceremonies ancillary to a funeral directors shop or a crematorium (subtag) (This is an offshoot from my previous proposal, due to comments made there.) Proposal page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pr

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Funeral hall

2020-09-01 Thread wolle68
Dear list, Please vote on the following proposal: Funeral hall: place for holding a funeral ceremony, other than a place of worship Proposal page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Funeral_hall Discussion page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/F

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread wolle68
I'm completely open to suggestions in this regard. I took the key I've already seen used by some, but if someone comes up with a better idea, great. Am 19.08.2020 18:37 schrieb Volker Schmidt: With respect to the proposed key, I would invite you to consider an alternative way of tagging this f

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread wolle68
I'm not familiar with such privately owned cemeteries, so others may be better placed. Here are my thoughts from what you write: If there is a crematorium, as I already wrote, I think it's pointless to add such a new tag, because a room like that would probably go with any crematorium anyhow

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread wolle68
Not important at all. I just think that if it is ancillary to the business of selling coffins, transporting corpses, preparing them for burial, doing paperwork in relation to that etc. (what the French call a "funérarium"), then it doesn't deserve a tag distinct from the funeral directors tag (

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread wolle68
I could imagine rare cases of a privately run cemetery not linked to any religion or belief/life stance and where there is such a building. But typically, they would be public. That being said, all cemeteries I know personally are run either by a government entity or a religious denomination; o

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread wolle68
If there is a crematorium, I agree that it should take precedence, and I can't imagine a crematorium without such a room. However, more often than not, there is no crematorium while there is such a funeral hall (quite often actually colloquially called a "chapel", but "chapel" falls under the c

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread wolle68
Funeral directors are a business, this is a public facility (generally) on a cemetery. A mortuary is for storing corpses, that's often associated to this kind of ceremonial place, but not necessarily. Am 19.08.2020 01:36 schrieb Joseph Eisenberg: There is already an existing tag with similar m

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread wolle68
Indeed, this is not about a business, but a public facility. Am 19.08.2020 09:34 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: sent from a phone On 19. Aug 2020, at 01:38, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: similar meaning for funeral homes / funeral halls / funeral directors: shop=funeral_directors. The use of the

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-18 Thread wolle68
Dear list, Please comment on the following proposal: Funeral hall: a building for funeral ceremonies which may be religious or secular Proposal page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Funeral_hall Discussion page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_feature