Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-08-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 2. Aug 2020, at 09:01, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Also, seriously, no offense to Croatia, the only place in the world not > hostile to Americans that US passports are still accepted. I don’t see it as hostility, it’s reasonable precautions, of temporary nature...

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-08-02 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Aug 1, 2020, at 7:45 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Slightly OT question here, please. > > I remember reading a US press article ~12 months ago (may have even been > mentioned on here in discussions at the time re = aboriginal_land?) to the > effect that the US Supreme Court was

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-08-02 Thread Paul Johnson
Also, seriously, no offense to Croatia, the only place in the world not hostile to Americans that US passports are still accepted. We don't deserve that gesture, but I appreciate the self-sacrificing move if only to not make us follow entirely in North Korea's footsteps. On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-08-02 Thread Paul Johnson
CW: Politics, rightfully being denied the world because where I live is an idiot. Clarification: I'm Cherokee, Choctaw and Scottish, and I'm barred from entering Choctaw and Scottish territory due to COVID19, and even without the pandemic, it's harder for me to travel now (seriously, violate

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-08-02 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 9:21 PM Clifford Snow wrote: > If you look at eastern Oklahoma, about 90%, Paul - correct me if I'm > wrong, is boundary=aboriginal_lands. Tulsa is pretty much completely inside > of two different reservations. > Three, actually. I live in the Muscogee Nation, now. Last

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-08-02 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 8:09 PM Kevin Kenny wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 5:29 PM Paul Johnson wrote: > >> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 3:09 PM Clay Smalley >> wrote: >> >>> Chiming in as another settler. I really wish we had more Natives active >>> on OSM contributing their cultural knowledge.

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-08-01 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 at 13:12, Tod Fitch wrote: > > Assuming that NPR is not geo-restricted to the US: > > > https://www.npr.org/2020/07/09/889562040/supreme-court-rules-that-about-half-of-oklahoma-is-indian-land > Thanks, Tod! Going to be interesting to see where this goes in the future.

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-08-01 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 at 12:22, Clifford Snow wrote: > > The agreed upon tag for reservations is boundary=aboriginal_lands. It's > used extensively in the US, Including the Mohawk Nation and across the > Saint Lawrence River in Canada. We don't have consensus on how to tag off > reservation land

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-08-01 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 6:09 PM Kevin Kenny wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 5:29 PM Paul Johnson wrote: > >> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 3:09 PM Clay Smalley >> wrote: >> >>> Chiming in as another settler. I really wish we had more Natives active >>> on OSM contributing their cultural knowledge.

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-08-01 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 5:29 PM Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 3:09 PM Clay Smalley wrote: > >> Chiming in as another settler. I really wish we had more Natives active >> on OSM contributing their cultural knowledge. What could we be doing >> different in the future to welcome and

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-08-01 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 2:28 PM Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 3:09 PM Clay Smalley wrote: > >> >> So I think the current tagging makes sense. Though I wonder if places >> like these qualify as disputed territory. After all, the US and Canada have >> a nation-to-nation relationship

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-08-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 3:09 PM Clay Smalley wrote: > Chiming in as another settler. I really wish we had more Natives active on > OSM contributing their cultural knowledge. What could we be doing different > in the future to welcome and engage them in our community? > Outreach to tribal GIS

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-08-01 Thread Clay Smalley
Chiming in as another settler. I really wish we had more Natives active on OSM contributing their cultural knowledge. What could we be doing different in the future to welcome and engage them in our community? On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 12:28 PM Kevin Kenny wrote: > Both the US and Canada consider

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-08-01 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 12:27 PM Kevin Kenny wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 2:25 PM Clifford Snow > wrote: > >> After some digging, it appears that Saint Regis Mohawk Indian Territory >> is in OSM. Just across the border, on a Saint Lawrence River island, is the >> Akwesasne 59 First

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-08-01 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Sat, 1 Aug 2020 at 14:24, Clifford Snow wrote: > What I find interesting is that the Canadian Border Crossing is located on > the North side of the Saint Lawrence River while the US crossing station is > located on the South side of the river. It seems to imply that the Akwesasne > Nation

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-08-01 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 2:25 PM Clifford Snow wrote: > After some digging, it appears that Saint Regis Mohawk Indian Territory is > in OSM. Just across the border, on a Saint Lawrence River island, is the > Akwesasne 59 First Nations tribe is also in OSM. According to Wikipedia [1] > the Mohawk

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-08-01 Thread Clifford Snow
After some digging, it appears that Saint Regis Mohawk Indian Territory is in OSM. Just across the border, on a Saint Lawrence River island, is the Akwesasne 59 First Nations tribe is also in OSM. According to Wikipedia [1] the Mohawk consider their territory to be a single nation, with no border

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-07-31 Thread Paul Johnson
I do not, which was a big problem with that. I like mapping weird boundaries like that, so I tried to take it on, but it seems there's somewhat conflicting information between the tribe, US and Canada on this. I strongly suspect we're going to need to find an Ahkwesáhsnean that knows the

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-07-31 Thread Clifford Snow
Paul, Do you have any website or contact info for the tribe? There are a number of websites but not sure exactly which one. Although it be nice to get them all added. Clifford On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 7:17 PM Paul Johnson wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 6:59 PM Clifford Snow > wrote: > >>

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-07-31 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 6:59 PM Clifford Snow wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 11:54 AM Kevin Kenny > wrote: > >> >> >> The nearest problem case to me is Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of >> the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy that straddles >> the US-Canadian border, and

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-07-31 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 11:54 AM Kevin Kenny wrote: > > > The nearest problem case to me is Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of > the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy that straddles > the US-Canadian border, and whose government is recognized by neither > state. The political