Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-03-14 Thread Warin
On 12/03/2015 10:04 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com mailto:ricoz@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 10:57:28AM +1100, Warin wrote: Mapping a maze path would reduce the enjoyment of the maze .. at least for

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-03-14 Thread Jan van Bekkum
+1 to make a wiki entry on leisure=maze. Fits with what already exists and the alternative isn't really better. On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 8:58 AM Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/03/2015 10:04 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-03-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 10:57:28AM +1100, Warin wrote: Mapping a maze path would reduce the enjoyment of the maze .. at least for me. Even if it was a single path. spoiler_warning=yes ? I do not think that is

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-02-27 1:14 GMT+01:00 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com: So leisure=maze Possible sub tags? material= fee= operator= opening_hours= etc. +1 for mazes that fall into the leisure category, and obviously -1 for those that clearly don't, like the one at the outer facade of the cathedral of

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-26 Thread Warin
On 21/02/2015 1:16 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote: Given that both the multiple-path and single-path definitions are in use, the OSM definition of labyrinth should not exclude either one. Present definition of maze within OSM includes labyrinth.

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-26 Thread Warin
On 20/02/2015 6:57 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 19 February 2015 at 00:04, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: leisure=maze 77 attraction=maze 147 So the usage is split about even.. Looks more like 1:2 to me. The numbers are too small for me to say.

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-26 Thread Warin
On 19/02/2015 10:49 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2015-02-19 12:43 GMT+01:00 Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com mailto:ricoz@gmail.com: in addition to that I think any large enough maze should be mapped with highway=maze or highway=path, dead end markers and emergency exits.

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-26 Thread Warin
On 19/02/2015 8:55 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2015-02-19 10:20 GMT+01:00 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com: The usuall OSM practice is to have one tag xxx=maze and then have a sub tag to distinguish the type of maze. Why this exception .. other than

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 19 February 2015 at 00:04, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: leisure=maze 77 attraction=maze 147 So the usage is split about even.. Looks more like 1:2 to me. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-20 Thread John F. Eldredge
Given that both the multiple-path and single-path definitions are in use, the OSM definition of labyrinth should not exclude either one. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Dr.

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-20 Thread Brad Neuhauser
The maze/labyrinth distinction is there. When I hear of modern labyrinths, it's usually in the context of religious/spiritual uses (since there's only one way, it lends itself to a walking meditation). Mazes are generally like a recreational puzzle, where you're trying to find your way. Whether

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-20 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Various new age spiritual communities have a strong definition of labyrinth: it's one path, no dead ends, leading to a center. There are dozens in my area. The term is widespread and common, as is the feature. The one path labyrinth is a mappable feature in OSM, even if Merriam Webster has not

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-20 Thread John F. Eldredge
Labyrinths aren't usually defined as having only one way through them. They normally have side passages, although, like other mazes, there may be only one path that will succeed in taking you all of the way to the exit. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-20 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:24 AM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: Labyrinths aren't usually defined as having only one way through them. They normally have side passages, although, like other mazes, there may be only one path that will succeed in taking you all of the way to the

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-20 Thread John F. Eldredge
Here is the definition from my Merriam'Webster dictionary: 1 a : a place constructed of or full of intricate passageways and blind alleys   b : a maze (as in a garden) formed by paths separated by high hedges 2 : something extremely complex or tortuous in structure, arrangement, or character : 

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-19 Thread Warin
On 19/02/2015 7:44 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: there are also few amenity=maze and historic and tourism. The key attraction is used according to the wiki for features on a playground or in a theme park. Given the huge variety of maze types (ranging from built ones in masonry, ones made of

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-19 Thread Warin
On 19/02/2015 8:15 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: The problem with tourism=attraction attraction=maze Is that attraction is a top level tag, not a subtag of tourism=attraction. So maybe: tourism=attraction type=maze subtypes=labyrinth;hedge I'd do tourism=maze ... similar to zoo, theme park,

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-19 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
I think that attraction=maze is better than attraction:type (shorter, without colon, type is not really adding anything useful, clear detailing of tourism=attraction). 2015-02-19 3:59 GMT+01:00 Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com: If it's of interest to outsiders it seems like an attraction.

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
there are also few amenity=maze and historic and tourism. The key attraction is used according to the wiki for features on a playground or in a theme park. Given the huge variety of maze types (ranging from built ones in masonry, ones made of vegetation to those ornaments carved into historic

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-19 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
The problem with tourism=attraction attraction=maze Is that attraction is a top level tag, not a subtag of tourism=attraction. So maybe: tourism=attraction type=maze subtypes=labyrinth;hedge ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-19 Thread Dan S
Yes Mateusz, +1 from me, sounds good - Dan 2015-02-19 8:00 GMT+00:00 Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com: I think that attraction=maze is better than attraction:type (shorter, without colon, type is not really adding anything useful, clear detailing of tourism=attraction). 2015-02-19 3:59

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-19 Thread John Willis
There are some super famous ones in Japan in hat appear in the same field every year - I imagine there is some seasonal tag system to tag when it appears. There is also a yearly field used for making a giant pice of art. I wonder if artwork + a time or seasonal tag would work, as it appears

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-19 Thread johnw
I think it should be k kept under attraction, because a large mappable maze is certainly an interest of tourists - especially if it is part of a larger complex. Then it would be tourism=attraction attraction=maze maze=hedge or attraction:maze=hedge instead of attraction=maze + maze=hedge

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Some forms of mazes and labyrinths 1. - part of or entire garden (often of a castle or stately home or similarly representative building), like this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maze#mediaviewer/File:Longleat_maze.jpg or this one:

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-19 Thread Janko Mihelić
2015-02-19 10:27 GMT+01:00 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com: I'd do tourism=maze ... similar to zoo, theme park, museum, artwork. and if necessary sub tag under that .. there are lots of different types .. see wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maze I agree. It's simple and to the point.

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-02-19 12:43 GMT+01:00 Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com: in addition to that I think any large enough maze should be mapped with highway=maze or highway=path, dead end markers and emergency exits. +1 and telephone number and capacity. Cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-02-19 10:20 GMT+01:00 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com: The usuall OSM practice is to have one tag xxx=maze and then have a sub tag to distinguish the type of maze. Why this exception .. other than poor practice in the past? you seem to imply that there is just one way to look at the

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-19 Thread Philip Barnes
maze=maize Probably too temporary for osm but they do appear every summer in the same area, moving with crop rotation. The farmer cuts paths through the maize and places a raised platform in the middle Phil (trigpoint ) On Thu Feb 19 09:48:33 2015 GMT, johnw wrote: I think it should be k

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-19 Thread Richard Z.
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 06:48:33PM +0900, johnw wrote: I think it should be k kept under attraction, because a large mappable maze is certainly an interest of tourists - especially if it is part of a larger complex. Then it would be tourism=attraction attraction=maze maze=hedge

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-18 Thread johnw
On Feb 19, 2015, at 11:59 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: If it's of interest to outsiders it seems like an attraction. Thus how about: tourism=attraction attraction:type=maze name=Happy Tunnel Kiddie Maze website=http://maze.example.org/ http://maze.example.org/ What

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-18 Thread Dave Swarthout
Seeing as a maze is not an attraction for me, I would prefer the first option. Moreover, I would have assumed attraction was a subkey of tourism=attraction but apparently it is not. There are many uses of the term but the tag attraction=* was proposed in 2008 but never voted on or accepted.

[Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-18 Thread Warin
The value maze is used some 224 times ... but it is split between leisure=maze 77 attraction=maze 147 So the usage is split about even.. What would be preferred? Both are applicable... none are documented .. and I'd like to document one .. so the question which is best?

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-18 Thread johnw
On Feb 19, 2015, at 10:37 AM, Dave Swarthout daveswarth...@gmail.com wrote: Seeing as a maze is not an attraction for me, I would prefer the first option. Moreover, I would have assumed attraction was a subkey of tourism=attraction but apparently it is not. There are many uses of

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-18 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
If it's of interest to outsiders it seems like an attraction. Thus how about: *tourism=attraction* *attraction:type=maze* *name=Happy Tunnel Kiddie Maze* *website=http://maze.example.org/ http://maze.example.org/* You want all those similar features (maze/tube hill/ride/garden/water