On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 11:54 AM Kevin Kenny
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> The nearest problem case to me is Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of
> the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy that straddles
> the US-Canadian border, and whose government is recognized by neither
> state. The political situat
On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 6:59 PM Clifford Snow
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> On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 11:54 AM Kevin Kenny
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>> The nearest problem case to me is Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of
>> the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy that straddles
>> the US-Canadian border, and wh
Paul,
Do you have any website or contact info for the tribe? There are a number
of websites but not sure exactly which one. Although it be nice to get them
all added.
Clifford
On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 7:17 PM Paul Johnson wrote:
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> On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 6:59 PM Clifford Snow
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I do not, which was a big problem with that. I like mapping
weird boundaries like that, so I tried to take it on, but it seems there's
somewhat conflicting information between the tribe, US and Canada on this.
I strongly suspect we're going to need to find an Ahkwesáhsnean that knows
the boundarie
After some digging, it appears that Saint Regis Mohawk Indian Territory is
in OSM. Just across the border, on a Saint Lawrence River island, is the
Akwesasne 59 First Nations tribe is also in OSM. According to Wikipedia [1]
the Mohawk consider their territory to be a single nation, with no border
s
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 2:25 PM Clifford Snow
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> After some digging, it appears that Saint Regis Mohawk Indian Territory is
> in OSM. Just across the border, on a Saint Lawrence River island, is the
> Akwesasne 59 First Nations tribe is also in OSM. According to Wikipedia [1]
> the Mohawk co
On Sat, 1 Aug 2020 at 14:24, Clifford Snow wrote:
> What I find interesting is that the Canadian Border Crossing is located on
> the North side of the Saint Lawrence River while the US crossing station is
> located on the South side of the river. It seems to imply that the Akwesasne
> Nation is
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 12:27 PM Kevin Kenny wrote:
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> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 2:25 PM Clifford Snow
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>> After some digging, it appears that Saint Regis Mohawk Indian Territory
>> is in OSM. Just across the border, on a Saint Lawrence River island, is the
>> Akwesasne 59 First Nations
Chiming in as another settler. I really wish we had more Natives active on
OSM contributing their cultural knowledge. What could we be doing different
in the future to welcome and engage them in our community?
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 12:28 PM Kevin Kenny wrote:
> Both the US and Canada consider t
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 3:09 PM Clay Smalley wrote:
> Chiming in as another settler. I really wish we had more Natives active on
> OSM contributing their cultural knowledge. What could we be doing different
> in the future to welcome and engage them in our community?
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Outreach to tribal GIS offi
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 2:28 PM Paul Johnson wrote:
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>> So I think the current tagging makes sense. Though I wonder if places
>> like these qualify as disputed territory. After all, the US and Canada have
>> a nation-to-nation relationship
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 5:29 PM Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 3:09 PM Clay Smalley wrote:
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>> Chiming in as another settler. I really wish we had more Natives active
>> on OSM contributing their cultural knowledge. What could we be doing
>> different in the future to welcome and e
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 6:09 PM Kevin Kenny wrote:
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> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 5:29 PM Paul Johnson wrote:
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>> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 3:09 PM Clay Smalley
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>>> Chiming in as another settler. I really wish we had more Natives active
>>> on OSM contributing their cultural knowledge.
On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 at 12:22, Clifford Snow wrote:
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> The agreed upon tag for reservations is boundary=aboriginal_lands. It's
> used extensively in the US, Including the Mohawk Nation and across the
> Saint Lawrence River in Canada. We don't have consensus on how to tag off
> reservation land tru
On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 at 13:12, Tod Fitch wrote:
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> Assuming that NPR is not geo-restricted to the US:
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> https://www.npr.org/2020/07/09/889562040/supreme-court-rules-that-about-half-of-oklahoma-is-indian-land
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Thanks, Tod!
Going to be interesting to see where this goes in the future.
Graeme
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 8:09 PM Kevin Kenny wrote:
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> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 5:29 PM Paul Johnson wrote:
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>> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 3:09 PM Clay Smalley
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>>> Chiming in as another settler. I really wish we had more Natives active
>>> on OSM contributing their cultural knowledge.
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 9:21 PM Clifford Snow
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> If you look at eastern Oklahoma, about 90%, Paul - correct me if I'm
> wrong, is boundary=aboriginal_lands. Tulsa is pretty much completely inside
> of two different reservations.
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Three, actually. I live in the Muscogee Nation, now. Last
CW: Politics, rightfully being denied the world because where I live is an
idiot.
Clarification: I'm Cherokee, Choctaw and Scottish, and I'm barred from
entering Choctaw and Scottish territory due to COVID19, and even without
the pandemic, it's harder for me to travel now (seriously, violate anyth
Also, seriously, no offense to Croatia, the only place in the world not
hostile to Americans that US passports are still accepted. We don't
deserve that gesture, but I appreciate the self-sacrificing move if only to
not make us follow entirely in North Korea's footsteps.
On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 1:
> On Aug 1, 2020, at 7:45 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
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> Slightly OT question here, please.
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> I remember reading a US press article ~12 months ago (may have even been
> mentioned on here in discussions at the time re = aboriginal_land?) to the
> effect that the US Supreme Court was shor
sent from a phone
> On 2. Aug 2020, at 09:01, Paul Johnson wrote:
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> Also, seriously, no offense to Croatia, the only place in the world not
> hostile to Americans that US passports are still accepted.
I don’t see it as hostility, it’s reasonable precautions, of temporary nature...
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