Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

2023-06-10 Thread Warin
On 10/6/23 00:13, Anne-Karoline Distel wrote: That's what I mean, tourist busses.  I see now that there is a tag (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tourist_bus), but my point is that it should also be rendered with a bus/ coach symbol. Also, they are often seasonal, at least in Ireland,

Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

2023-06-10 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 9 Jun 2023, at 12:56, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The difference between a coach and a bus? > > A 'coach' is intended for long distance transport - so more comfortable, > provision for luggage and possibly an on board toilet. yes, but this is a

Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

2023-06-09 Thread Anne-Karoline Distel
It was only a suggestion, I'm not gonna start the Maproulette task. Too much else to do. On 09/06/2023 23:06, Marc_marc wrote: Le 09.06.23 à 23:12, Anne-Karoline Distel a écrit : it might be useful to create a MapRoulette task to get rid of all the name tags. if you want to make a mass edit,

Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

2023-06-09 Thread Marc_marc
Le 09.06.23 à 23:12, Anne-Karoline Distel a écrit : it might be useful to create a MapRoulette task to get rid of all the name tags. if you want to make a mass edit, please don't hide it under a MapRoulette task but send a notice/request to talk

Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

2023-06-09 Thread Anne-Karoline Distel
Oh, yeah, it might be useful to create a MapRoulette task to get rid of all the name tags. Anne On 09/06/2023 21:46, Andy Townsend wrote: On 09/06/2023 21:21, Anne-Karoline Distel wrote: Since these are all descriptive values in the name which we are not supposed to do, I don't understand

Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

2023-06-09 Thread Andy Townsend
On 09/06/2023 21:21, Anne-Karoline Distel wrote: Since these are all descriptive values in the name which we are not supposed to do, I don't understand what you're trying to say. Two things really - one was in case one of them was your "name=coach" that you thought that you've seen; the

Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

2023-06-09 Thread Anne-Karoline Distel
Since these are all descriptive values in the name which we are not supposed to do, I don't understand what you're trying to say. Anne On 09/06/2023 13:35, Andy Townsend wrote: On 09/06/2023 10:52, Greg Troxel wrote: Anne- Karoline Distel writes: I came across a case where someone had

Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

2023-06-09 Thread Anne-Karoline Distel
capacity:coach depends entirely on the length/ size of the vehicle. This is the one that started the conversation: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/608428074 If you look at the mapillary, there is a left arrow for car parking and a right arrow for "bus park". This one is closer to home:

Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

2023-06-09 Thread Marc_marc
Le 09.06.23 à 14:35, Andy Townsend a écrit : https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/name=car#overview which seems to be commonly used as a name for (presumably coach) parking in France yes car in French mean long distance bus but i never see a sign with "long distance bus only", so I suppose

Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

2023-06-09 Thread Marc_marc
Le 09.06.23 à 16:24, Greg Troxel a écrit : It seems coach is for distance and 'bus' is used for within a city as part of a rapid transit system. and what for "coach (long distance) and (local) bus" ? doesn a traffic sign exist for both ? if not, the isssue isn't the english wording about the

Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

2023-06-09 Thread Marc_marc
Le 09.06.23 à 11:52, Greg Troxel a écrit : I find the women/parents strange, as I have never seen such spaces some shop have "family" parking_space closer to the entrance or where there is a larger pedestrian area so that the first child can wait in safety while the parent looks after the

Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

2023-06-09 Thread Greg Troxel
Colin Smale writes: > UK native here... > > Looking at the vehicles, a bus would be more spartan, set up for fare > collection, doors for speedy un/loading etc whereas a coach would > almost always have only a single door (although some have more), be > more luxurious, be equipped with seat

Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

2023-06-09 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2023-06-09 at 10:24 -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: > Anne-Karoline Distel writes: > > > [women's and parent's parking] > > I can believe it exists, and it being common in .eu explains why it's > in > the josm presets. > > You're right about caravans/ RVs, that should be its own tag as > >

Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

2023-06-09 Thread Colin Smale
UK native here... Looking at the vehicles, a bus would be more spartan, set up for fare collection, doors for speedy un/loading etc whereas a coach would almost always have only a single door (although some have more), be more luxurious, be equipped with seat belts etc. In bus-lover-land there

Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

2023-06-09 Thread Greg Troxel
Anne-Karoline Distel writes: > [women's and parent's parking] I can believe it exists, and it being common in .eu explains why it's in the josm presets. > You're right about caravans/ RVs, that should be its own tag as well and > be rendered. For coaches, I'm in favour of amenity=coach_parking

Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

2023-06-09 Thread Anne-Karoline Distel
That's what I mean, tourist busses.  I see now that there is a tag (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tourist_bus), but my point is that it should also be rendered with a bus/ coach symbol. Also, they are often seasonal, at least in Ireland, so during the winter, can be used by cars, but

Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

2023-06-09 Thread Anne-Karoline Distel
Hi, parking spaces for women are usually closer to the entrance to the shop, so the rapist doens't get a chance to get you, if you're too far into a vast parking garage and nobody can hear you scream. Or maybe just to make you feel safer. Parents' parking is closer to the shop/ shopping trolley

Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

2023-06-09 Thread Andy Townsend
On 09/06/2023 10:52, Greg Troxel wrote: Anne- Karoline Distel writes: I came across a case where someone had added name=coach and name=car to amenity=parking, which is obviously not how we do things [snip] I can't find it either. https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/name#values allows

Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

2023-06-09 Thread Warin
On 9/6/23 20:26, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 9 Jun 2023, at 12:04, Greg Troxel wrote: I can't find it either. I remembered that JOSM presets have a lot more detail than the wiki. But I checked, and I don't see anything about "coaches" (which I think is the word in EU

Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

2023-06-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 9 Jun 2023, at 12:04, Greg Troxel wrote: > > I can't find it either. I remembered that JOSM presets have a lot more > detail than the wiki. But I checked, and I don't see anything about > "coaches" (which I think is the word in EU for what we Yanks would call >

Re: [Tagging] Coach parking

2023-06-09 Thread Greg Troxel
Anne- Karoline Distel writes: > I came across a case where someone had added name=coach and name=car > to amenity=parking, which is obviously not how we do things [snip] I can't find it either. I remembered that JOSM presets have a lot more detail than the wiki. But I checked, and I don't see

[Tagging] Coach parking

2023-06-09 Thread Anne- Karoline Distel
I came across a case where someone had added name=coach and name=car to amenity=parking, which is obviously not how we do things, but I can't find a good way to mark coach parking as such. I've added bus=yes in the meantime, but that won't render a bus icon instead of a car icon, I believe, which