Re: [Tagging] Default values for surface by road category and country

2019-09-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 23/09/2019 09:14, Volker Schmidt wrote: every mapper can set his own, as you doe and I do, but this means that a router has to second guess what people think is standard use in different countries. That is exactly how it works. In general, tagging surface

Re: [Tagging] Default values for surface by road category and country

2019-09-23 Thread Volker Schmidt
every mapper can set his own, as you doe and I do, but this means that a > router has to second guess what people think is standard use in different > countries. > > That is exactly how it works. > In general, tagging surface is almost > always good idea or at least nice to do. > But this very

Re: [Tagging] Default values for surface by road category and country

2019-09-22 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
22 Sep 2019, 21:38 by vosc...@gmail.com: > every mapper can set his own, as you doe and I do, but this means that a > router has to second guess what people think is standard use in different > countries. > That is exactly how it works. In general, tagging surface is almost  always good idea or

Re: [Tagging] Default values for surface by road category and country

2019-09-22 Thread Volker Schmidt
What I am searching for is a wiki page that tells me which roads do have default values and what are these default values in which countries. Without doubt most "highway=x" have no "surface=y" in OSM because the mappers assume that certain road categories do have certain default surface values.

Re: [Tagging] Default values for surface by road category and country

2019-09-21 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Tom Pfeifer wrote: > In the outskirts of Berlin, I have unpaved highway=residential in good > neighbourhoods, that are muddy when wet and dusty when dry. Thus Germany > qualifies as developing country? No, it qualifies as somewhere you should tag unpaved roads with a surface= tag. Hence the

Re: [Tagging] Default values for surface by road category and country

2019-09-21 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 21.09.2019 17:09, Richard Fairhurst wrote: voschix wrote: I am trying to figure out where the surface default values by road category and country are defined. I don't believe there's a place where it's stated, but I work on these assumptions: - in developed countries, all "higher"

Re: [Tagging] Default values for surface by road category and country

2019-09-21 Thread Richard Fairhurst
voschix wrote: > I am trying to figure out where the surface default values by road > category and country are defined. I don't believe there's a place where it's stated, but I work on these assumptions: - highway=track/bridleway is always unpaved unless stated otherwise - highway=footway/path

Re: [Tagging] Default values for surface by road category and country

2019-09-21 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Do you mean default as in "not worth tagging" or "if untagged it is useful to assume"? 21 Sep 2019, 11:04 by vosc...@gmail.com: > I am trying to figure out where the surface default values by road category > and country are defined. > Anyone who knows more about the subject? > > >

Re: [Tagging] Default values for surface by road category and country

2019-09-21 Thread yo paseopor
In Europe I think. In other countries of other continents there's no pavement on all the main highways. OSM is "universal" so the scheme should not have values by default asking only one part of the World Salut i mapes (Health and Maps) yopaseopor On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 1:53 PM Joseph

Re: [Tagging] Default values for surface by road category and country

2019-09-21 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
I believe all highway= values are assumed to be paved by default (in most places) except for highway=track. But it’s best to always add a tag, even for paved roads, if you know. (In some rural and wilderness areas it’s likely that most minor roads, footways and paths are unpaved, but explicit

Re: [Tagging] Default values for surface by road category and country

2019-09-21 Thread Jez Nicholson
Do you mean the default values in a particular piece of software, e.g. iD? On Sat, 21 Sep 2019, 11:06 Volker Schmidt, wrote: > I am trying to figure out where the surface default values by road > category and country are defined. > Anyone who knows more about the subject? > > > > >

[Tagging] Default values for surface by road category and country

2019-09-21 Thread Volker Schmidt
I am trying to figure out where the surface default values by road category and country are defined. Anyone who knows more about the subject? Virus-free. www.avast.com