Re: [Tagging] Deprecating aerialway=goods

2015-02-21 Thread Richard Z.
So let us see: On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 05:57:47AM +0100, Andreas Labres wrote: > A "Materialseilbahn" is a special type of aerialway (Seilbahn) and should have > its own value. See the picture linked in the wiki. This is not a cable car, > this > is not a gondola, it is a "Materialseilbahn" (if

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating aerialway=goods

2015-02-21 Thread Richard Z.
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 06:05:40PM +0100, Pieren wrote: > On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Richard Z. wrote: > > > How is routing software supposed to know that some aerialway=goods are > > actually taking passengers? > > like roads tagged with "access=no" or "private". Or > "highway=pedestrian"

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating aerialway=goods

2015-02-19 Thread Pieren
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Richard Z. wrote: > How is routing software supposed to know that some aerialway=goods are > actually taking passengers? like roads tagged with "access=no" or "private". Or "highway=pedestrian" not allowed for cars. We create simple tags for the average contribu

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating aerialway=goods

2015-02-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 19.02.2015 um 13:12 schrieb Andreas Labres : > > The only alternative there is a helicopter flight... or a mule ;-) cheers Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating aerialway=goods

2015-02-19 Thread Andreas Labres
Richard, Those "Materialseilbahnen" (ropeways for goods) are typical in the Alps to supply alpine huts (where everybody can get something to eat and stay overnight) with everything that is needed. The only alternative there is a helicopter flight... On 19.02.15 12:24, Richard Z. wrote: > try ha

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating aerialway=goods

2015-02-19 Thread Richard Z.
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 05:27:30PM +0100, Pieren wrote: > On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 2:49 PM, fly wrote: > > >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:aerialway#Usage > > -1 > > I don't like such general keys like "usage" (or "type") in general. well the key is already here and perfect fit for ae

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating aerialway=goods

2015-02-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-02-19 12:24 GMT+01:00 Richard Z. : > try harder to find an english word for the special aerialway in the > picture becuase > mappers all over the world have been using this improperly to map large > mining and > industrial aerialways. > why do you think this is improper usage? The current

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating aerialway=goods

2015-02-19 Thread Richard Z.
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 05:57:47AM +0100, Andreas Labres wrote: > On 18.02.15 14:36, Richard Z. wrote: > > suggest deprecating this particular value of aerialway > > -1 > > A "Materialseilbahn" is a special type of aerialway (Seilbahn) and should have > its own value. See the picture linked in th

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating aerialway=goods

2015-02-18 Thread Andreas Labres
On 18.02.15 14:36, Richard Z. wrote: > suggest deprecating this particular value of aerialway -1 A "Materialseilbahn" is a special type of aerialway (Seilbahn) and should have its own value. See the picture linked in the wiki. This is not a cable car, this is not a gondola, it is a "Materialseilb

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating aerialway=goods

2015-02-18 Thread Pieren
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 2:49 PM, fly wrote: >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:aerialway#Usage -1 I don't like such general keys like "usage" (or "type") in general. Basically, it could be used in all tags (e.g. highway=yes + usage=residential). It's not because it is now spread in railw

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating aerialway=goods

2015-02-18 Thread fly
Am 18.02.2015 um 14:36 schrieb Richard Z.: > suggest deprecating this particular value of aerialway as there are > much better ways to map industrial/freight lines with usage=* and > foot=* type restrictions. > > The new description is already in: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:aeri

[Tagging] Deprecating aerialway=goods

2015-02-18 Thread Richard Z.
Hi, suggest deprecating this particular value of aerialway as there are much better ways to map industrial/freight lines with usage=* and foot=* type restrictions. The new description is already in: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:aerialway#Usage discussion: http://wiki.openstreetmap.or