Re: [Tagging] Footways where pedestrians may only walk in one direction: oneway:foot=yes or foot:backward=no?

2020-04-16 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On 15/04/2020 23:03, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Some paths and footways have oneway=yes. Sometimes this means that bicycles may only access these features in one direction, but other times it has been used for one-way features for pedestrians (for example, queues in theme parks or at border control

Re: [Tagging] Footways where pedestrians may only walk in one direction: oneway:foot=yes or foot:backward=no?

2020-04-16 Thread Jmapb
On 4/16/2020 4:46 AM, Paul Allen wrote: On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 04:08, Andrew Harvey mailto:andrew.harv...@gmail.com>> wrote: To sidestep your question, oneway=yes on a highway=footway, cycleway or path already implies it's not accessible to vehicles so a oneway tag on any of those

Re: [Tagging] Footways where pedestrians may only walk in one direction: oneway:foot=yes or foot:backward=no?

2020-04-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Do., 16. Apr. 2020 um 13:50 Uhr schrieb Andrew Harvey < andrew.harv...@gmail.com>: > But on a highway=footway,cycleway,path you can't drive a vehicle, so in > those cases if there is a oneway=yes it's fair to assume it applies to all > modes of transport on that way, unless otherwise

Re: [Tagging] Footways where pedestrians may only walk in one direction: oneway:foot=yes or foot:backward=no?

2020-04-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Do., 16. Apr. 2020 um 12:48 Uhr schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > On 16/4/20 7:59 pm, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > sent from a phone > > > On 16. Apr 2020, at 05:04, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > > Some paths and footways have oneway=yes. Sometimes this means that > bicycles may only

Re: [Tagging] Footways where pedestrians may only walk in one direction: oneway:foot=yes or foot:backward=no?

2020-04-16 Thread Paul Allen
On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 12:50, Andrew Harvey wrote: > But on a highway=footway,cycleway,path you can't drive a vehicle, so in > those cases if there is a oneway=yes it's fair to assume it applies to all > modes of transport on that way, unless otherwise indicated. Sure you can > add

Re: [Tagging] Footways where pedestrians may only walk in one direction: oneway:foot=yes or foot:backward=no?

2020-04-16 Thread Florimond Berthoux
Bicycle is a vehicle (in OSM transportation mode hierarchy at least) An other way to explain Martin point is by saying that oneway key is an alias of vehicle:backward|forward oneway=yes -> vehicle:backward=no oneway=-1 -> vehicle:forward=no oneway=yes -> vehicle:backward=no oneway:bicycle=no ->

Re: [Tagging] Footways where pedestrians may only walk in one direction: oneway:foot=yes or foot:backward=no?

2020-04-16 Thread Andrew Harvey
But on a highway=footway,cycleway,path you can't drive a vehicle, so in those cases if there is a oneway=yes it's fair to assume it applies to all modes of transport on that way, unless otherwise indicated. Sure you can add oneway:foot=yes if you like, but oneway=yes should be interpreted as the

Re: [Tagging] Footways where pedestrians may only walk in one direction: oneway:foot=yes or foot:backward=no?

2020-04-16 Thread Paul Allen
On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 11:48, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > What reason is there for excluding other modes of transport? > > Many ways permit more than one mode of transport. Does oneway apply to all modes? Does that mean I can only walk in the same direction that traffic is

Re: [Tagging] Footways where pedestrians may only walk in one direction: oneway:foot=yes or foot:backward=no?

2020-04-16 Thread Warin
On 16/4/20 7:59 pm, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 16. Apr 2020, at 05:04, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Some paths and footways have oneway=yes. Sometimes this means that bicycles may only access these features in one direction, but other times it has been used for one-way

Re: [Tagging] Footways where pedestrians may only walk in one direction: oneway:foot=yes or foot:backward=no?

2020-04-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 16. Apr 2020, at 05:44, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > > foot:backward=no may make sense > to someone who has already read the wiki or other documentation, but is > confusing and has the double negative aspect to it. there is no double negative to it, it is a simple

Re: [Tagging] Footways where pedestrians may only walk in one direction: oneway:foot=yes or foot:backward=no?

2020-04-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 16. Apr 2020, at 05:04, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > > Some paths and footways have oneway=yes. Sometimes this means that > bicycles may only access these features in one direction, but other > times it has been used for one-way features for pedestrians (for > example,

Re: [Tagging] Footways where pedestrians may only walk in one direction: oneway:foot=yes or foot:backward=no?

2020-04-16 Thread Paul Allen
On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 04:08, Andrew Harvey wrote: > To sidestep your question, oneway=yes on a highway=footway, cycleway or > path already implies it's not accessible to vehicles so a oneway tag on any > of those highway tags should apply to all modes of transport. So > highway=footway +

Re: [Tagging] Footways where pedestrians may only walk in one direction: oneway:foot=yes or foot:backward=no?

2020-04-15 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On 4/15/20 22:03, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > But as an English speaker, I find it difficult to immediately > understand the meaning of foot:backward=no (which uses a double > negative, as it were), while oneway:foot=yes seems clear right away. > > Is there really a reason to prefer the less common

Re: [Tagging] Footways where pedestrians may only walk in one direction: oneway:foot=yes or foot:backward=no?

2020-04-15 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 13:04, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > But as an English speaker, I find it difficult to immediately > understand the meaning of foot:backward=no (which uses a double > negative, as it were), while oneway:foot=yes seems clear right away. > As another native English speaker,

Re: [Tagging] Footways where pedestrians may only walk in one direction: oneway:foot=yes or foot:backward=no?

2020-04-15 Thread Andrew Harvey
To sidestep your question, oneway=yes on a highway=footway, cycleway or path already implies it's not accessible to vehicles so a oneway tag on any of those highway tags should apply to all modes of transport. So highway=footway + oneway=yes shouldn't need any other tags like oneway:foot. On Thu,

[Tagging] Footways where pedestrians may only walk in one direction: oneway:foot=yes or foot:backward=no?

2020-04-15 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Some paths and footways have oneway=yes. Sometimes this means that bicycles may only access these features in one direction, but other times it has been used for one-way features for pedestrians (for example, queues in theme parks or at border control stations). Other more specific tags have been