[Tagging] Is crop=yes tag completely and utterly useless?

Is there any situation where crop=yes should not be removed as utterly useless? 9326 of 9657 crop=yes is on landuse=farmland - it seems to me that it is not adding any information whatsoever. https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/crop=yes#map

Re: [Tagging] Is crop=yes tag completely and utterly useless?

On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 at 16:12, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 9326 of 9657 crop=yes is on landuse=farmland - it seems to me that it is > not adding any information whatsoever. > Some farmland is used to grow crops. Some farmland is used to graze sheep or cows. So not entirely useless, but perhaps wit

Re: [Tagging] Is crop=yes tag completely and utterly useless?

sent from a phone > On 17. Aug 2019, at 17:09, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > 9326 of 9657 crop=yes is on landuse=farmland - it seems to me that it is > not adding any information whatsoever. certainly removing them would be even less useful? You could read it as a way of stating that somethi

Re: [Tagging] Is crop=yes tag completely and utterly useless?

Would produce=crop be better? As produce could be fish, cattle, sheep, wool, or crops. produce=crop would say that only crops are produced here. On 18/08/19 01:27, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 17. Aug 2019, at 17:09, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 9326 of 9657 crop=yes is on

Re: [Tagging] Is crop=yes tag completely and utterly useless?

Produce=crop would be worse, because “crop” is not a type of produce, and produce= is only very rarely used for crop land ( crop= is the established key for types of crops like rice, sugarcane, wheat, etc) As I mentioned on the Talk:Key:crop page, I suspect that this tag crop=yes is sometimes used

Re: [Tagging] Is crop=yes tag completely and utterly useless?

But isn't that the definition of farmland in OSM? I would map meadows, farmyards, and orchards with their respective tags, not with landuse=farmland. Leif R On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 7:18 PM Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > Produce=crop would be worse, because “crop” is not a type of produce, and > prod

Re: [Tagging] Is crop=yes tag completely and utterly useless?

Cannot farm land can be used for crops for some time, and then milk cattle for some other period of time? IIRC that is what one of my relatives did. On 18/08/19 11:20, Leif Rasmussen wrote: But isn't that the definition of farmland in OSM? I would map meadows, farmyards, and orchards with thei

Re: [Tagging] Is crop=yes tag completely and utterly useless?

sent from a phone > On 18. Aug 2019, at 01:17, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > > So at least we know it probably isn’t a meadow or a farmyard or an orchard? and not used for pasture Cheers Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org h

Re: [Tagging] Is crop=yes tag completely and utterly useless?

"Crop is a produce" What does that mean? The word "crop" in British English means " a cultivated plant that is grown on a large scale commercially, especially a cereal, fruit, or vegetable. (Oxford); or "a plant such as a grain, fruit, or vegetable grown in large amounts" (Cambridge). Plants are

Re: [Tagging] Is crop=yes tag completely and utterly useless?

On 18/08/19 16:39, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: "Crop is a produce" What does that mean? The word "crop" in British English means " a cultivated plant that is grown on a large scale commercially, especially a cereal, fruit, or vegetable. (Oxford); or "a plant such as a grain, fruit, or vegetable gro

Re: [Tagging] Is crop=yes tag completely and utterly useless?

sent from a phone > On 18. Aug 2019, at 08:39, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > > For this I would suggest the > key "farmland=cropland" or ok > "crop=field_cropland", not ok IMHO, field cropland is a kind if field, not a kind of crop > rather than crop=yes to me this isn’t perfect (yes

Re: [Tagging] Is crop=yes tag completely and utterly useless?

On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 at 07:40, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > But I see that there is some desire for a tag for generic cropland, or > farmland used to grow unspecified crops. For this I would suggest the > key "farmland=cropland" or "crop=field_cropland", rather than crop=yes > (less specific) or pr

Re: [Tagging] Is crop=yes tag completely and utterly useless?

sent from a phone > On 18. Aug 2019, at 14:10, Paul Allen wrote: > > Land in crop rotation may be left fallow for a year, with no crop. OTOH, > where the land is very uneven then it might be used for nothing but pasture > (sheep or goats are the usual "crop" on land like that). +1, also whe

Re: [Tagging] Is crop=yes tag completely and utterly useless?

On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 at 14:13, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: this is what you can always do, and what you should do if you don’t know > the specifics, although from a survey (or even from detailed aerial > imagery) even a city dweller would usually be able to distinguish at least > pasture from crops

Re: [Tagging] Is crop=yes tag completely and utterly useless?

landuse=meadow is also used for pasture, as mentioned on it's wiki page and description. Since it's not always obvious if grass is going to be grazed or cut for hay, it would often be difficult to tell the difference. I normally only use landuse=farmland for cropland, since the other times of agri

Re: [Tagging] Is crop=yes tag completely and utterly useless?

On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 at 14:52, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > landuse=meadow is also used for pasture, as mentioned on it's wiki > page and description. Since it's not always obvious if grass is going > to be grazed or cut for hay, it would often be difficult to tell the > difference. > I didn't spot

Re: [Tagging] Is crop=yes tag completely and utterly useless?

sent from a phone > On 18. Aug 2019, at 15:41, Paul Allen wrote: > > Thinking about it, maybe we should reactivate landuse=pasture and add > landuse=arable. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arable_land which makes the > distinction between pasture, arable land, and land for permanent woody c

Re: [Tagging] Is crop=yes tag completely and utterly useless?

It's unlikely that a synonym of landuse=farmland will be accepted by most mappers. That's why I suggested using something like landuse=farmland + farmland=cropland - the key farmland=* is already used (though not in a very consistent or helpful way). Or cropland=yes would also work fine. For fallo

Re: [Tagging] Is crop=yes tag completely and utterly useless?

On 18/08/19 22:10, Paul Allen wrote: On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 at 07:40, Joseph Eisenberg mailto:joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>> wrote: But I see that there is some desire for a tag for generic cropland, or farmland used to grow unspecified crops. For this I would suggest the key "farmland=