Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 16:53, Tod Fitch wrote: > man_made=gantry > name=“whatever” > place=neighbourhood > > I suppose one could add some sort of tagging indicating the vertical > clearance that might be of use for routing. Also: * material= [wood|steel|brick|whatever] * start_date= [date] *

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

sent from a phone > On 30. Nov 2018, at 10:12, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > > What key would you recommend, Martin? > > Man_made=entrance_arch? > barrier=...? > Highway=...? > Entrance=welcome_sign? I would not see them as barriers (although they might be for some high vehicles), nor

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

For nothing was for the render, when we decided, almost 6 years ago, artwork was not rendered by Mapnik or any application, we decided on the basis of the tags approved at that time, inventing the sub-tag city_entrance. If now they want to discuss the correct tag, great!. Regarding a simple

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

On 01/12/18 10:12, Kevin Kenny wrote: On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 5:59 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com>> wrote: That sort of works, but do we need something to say it's a big rock, or cement column? The 'description' tag, perhaps? Things eventually get to the

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

This! This! This! :-) On 2018-12-01 00:12, Kevin Kenny wrote: > The 'description' tag, perhaps? Things eventually get to the point where even > the obsessive classifiers on this list might as well admit that even if they > do introduce a taxonomy, it is likely that no data consumer will use it. 

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 5:59 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > That sort of works, but do we need something to say it's a big rock, or >> cement column? >> > The 'description' tag, perhaps? Things eventually get to the point where even the obsessive classifiers on this list might as well admit that

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

On Sat, 1 Dec 2018 at 08:26, Sergio Manzi wrote: > Doh... every day harder... :-) > What, you want easy??? :-) > I'd say information=board + board_type=welcome_sign > > look at it here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:board_type > That sort of works, but do we need something to say

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Doh... every day harder... :-) I'd say information=board + board_type=welcome_sign look at it here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:board_type Cheers! On 2018-11-30 23:10, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > OK, so man_made=gantry, or in some cases =archway, works for "things" > crossing

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OK, so man_made=gantry, or in some cases =archway, works for "things" crossing over the road :-) But how about vertical posts at the side of the road eg https://www.google.com/maps/@-28.0957659,153.4425762,3a,29y,283.97h,94.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sR3ht8iVkS_WU17vUqFuCgw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 ?

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Oh, and, BTW, by doing that the neighbourood will not suddenly disappear if they ever take down the gantry...  :-) On 2018-11-30 21:21, Sergio Manzi wrote: > > I understand what you mean (/and it reminds me of my first arrival in India, > to the neighbourood of Pahrganj in New Delhi!/), but I

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I understand what you mean (/and it reminds me of my first arrival in India, to the neighbourood of Pahrganj in New Delhi!/), but I still think place=neighbourood on the way identifing the gantry is wrong. Please let me explain why. A neighbourood occupy an "area", so you should either define

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One of the listed values of the place tag is “neighbourhood”. And, in the one case where I mapped such a overhead sign, it was the entrance to a neighborhood. It was, in fact, the location you’d be taken to by the motor-rickshaw from the metro station when you gave your destination and was

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

What do you think about this?     man_made=gantry     name=“name_of_the_neighbourood”     usage=welcome_sign /usage /is used mainly for railways but it is a so generic and useful term that I don't think it should be "/hijacked/" by railways. /welcome_sign/ is already used for board_type in

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

No, wait, I disagree with the "place=neighbourhood" thing! See: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Places and https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place Cheers! On 2018-11-30 18:10, Sergio Manzi wrote: > > Seems very good to me. > > * already used:

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

Seems very good to me. * already used: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/man_made=gantry * proposal exist: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Gantry In the proposal I don't like very much the way to indicate clearence, maxheight:physical=* (/what? opposed to... 

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

I’ve mapped by placing a way across the road tagged with: man_made=gantry name=“whatever” place=neighbourhood I suppose one could add some sort of tagging indicating the vertical clearance that might be of use for routing. > On Nov 30, 2018, at 3:48 AM, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > > Yeah,

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

Yeah, that was how my thought process went too. Maybe there is no perfect tag for these. On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 8:26 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 30/11/18 20:12, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > What key would you recommend, Martin? > > Man_made=entrance_arch? > > > Not all are

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

On 30/11/18 20:12, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: What key would you recommend, Martin? Man_made=entrance_arch? Not all are entrances, some mark the centre. No all are aches? An arch is a curved structure - some are rectangular .. portals? That is not right either. barrier=...? no Highway=...?

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What key would you recommend, Martin? Man_made=entrance_arch? barrier=...? Highway=...? Entrance=welcome_sign? On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 5:19 PM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 29. Nov 2018, at 04:27, AgusQui wrote: > > > > We consider it as generic for any type of

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

sent from a phone > On 29. Nov 2018, at 04:27, AgusQui wrote: > > We consider it as generic for any type of entrance arch IMHO this is tagging for the renderer. You set the artwork bar incredibly low with this. Why not call them “entrance_arch” or maybe “welcome_sign”? Or even both of

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We consider it as generic for any type of entrance arch, be it in city, neighborhood, etc. Examples: https://www.mapillary.com/app/?focus=photo=9abzbC1EpTRUE8R4PDYs5A=-27.454227912298393=-56.04909613175403=17

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Thank you, AgusQui. That sounds like a good option for an artistic entrance sign. Eg “Welcome to Fabulous Las Vegas.” Can you give a link to photos of some of these? But I don’t think artwork will work as a tag for simple overhead signs which don’t really qualify as artwork. Also, city_entrance

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In Argentina we discussed this a few years ago and decided to use artwork together with artwork_type = city_entrance https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=19718 -- Sent from:

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

Am Fr., 16. Nov. 2018 um 02:48 Uhr schrieb Joseph Eisenberg < joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>: > Here in Indonesia it is very common for neighbors to build sign over > the main entrance to their neighborhood, with the name of the > neighborhood on top and some other info on the two columns supporting

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 10:44 PM Joseph Eisenberg < joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> wrote: > Please look at the examples in Indonesia. They are not sculptures or > artwork. And they are erected by the very local government at the > neighborhood level. The large sculptural signs in San Diego are

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

Please look at the examples in Indonesia. They are not sculptures or artwork. And they are erected by the very local government at the neighborhood level. The large sculptural signs in San Diego are rather artistic, but they are put up by the government or with government approval at least,

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 at 11:48, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > Here in Indonesia it is very common for neighbors to build sign over > the main entrance to their neighborhood, with the name of the > neighborhood on top and some other info on the two columns supporting > the sign. > I asked this

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 9:45 PM Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 8:35 PM Kevin Kenny > wrote: > >> On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 8:48 PM Joseph Eisenberg < >> joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Here in Indonesia it is very common for neighbors to build sign over >>> the main

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

In Turkmenistan I have tagged such signs (though they are official, and for villages/towns) as tourism=information, information=board or information=name depending on how much info it contains.  If there is a better tag, I am all ears. On 11/16/2018 7:44 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Nov 15,

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 8:35 PM Kevin Kenny wrote: > On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 8:48 PM Joseph Eisenberg < > joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Here in Indonesia it is very common for neighbors to build sign over >> the main entrance to their neighborhood, with the name of the >> neighborhood

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 8:48 PM Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > Here in Indonesia it is very common for neighbors to build sign over > the main entrance to their neighborhood, with the name of the > neighborhood on top and some other info on the two columns supporting > the sign. > For all the

[Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

Here in Indonesia it is very common for neighbors to build sign over the main entrance to their neighborhood, with the name of the neighborhood on top and some other info on the two columns supporting the sign. In this example there are two different gateway signs, on the small street to the left