On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, Matthias Meißer wrote:
> Sry I don't understand your point. If you limit a sports shop saying
> sports=football it is clear that he spots on football related things
> only, right?
well that would be four different sports covered immediately in Australia
Sry I don't understand your point. If you limit a sports shop saying
sports=football it is clear that he spots on football related things
only, right?
Matthias
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2010/8/31 Matthias Meißer :
> But yes for me the diving shop looks a little bit to specific cause the wiki
> of shop=sports says you can add details using sport=* in this example
> sport=diving.
As I posted to the wiki, all the dive shops I've seen in Australia
only sell dive related equipment and
I'm talking about the things in general.
But yes for me the diving shop looks a little bit to specific cause the
wiki of shop=sports says you can add details using sport=* in this
example sport=diving.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dsports
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:
2010/8/31 Matthias Meißer :
> This results in the funny situation that I have to do a proposal to
> modify/extend a non proposed feature that is in conflict on the list ;)
Are you talking about scuba diving centres?
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Some people try to sneak in features to the main feature list (hence
violating the community rules that only widely accepted and in-use
features should be added), but mostly this will not succeed,
especially when they are disputed features, because someone will
remove them. I don't see a point in
Am 30. August 2010 08:08 schrieb Matthias Meißer :
>> multitude of options to choose from
>
>
> Yes ok but the problem with this options is that the brainstorming process
> is so distributed and for every channel you need logon etc. For me for
> example I dont like mailinglists that much just caus
multitude of options to choose from
Yes ok but the problem with this options is that the brainstorming
process is so distributed and for every channel you need logon etc. For
me for example I dont like mailinglists that much just cause of the push
communication form.
So I thaught that the
> Am 29. August 2010 11:05 schrieb Matthias MeiÃer :
>> So how do you design a tag in a team without the proposal process?
>
>
> you find something that is not yet documented on the wiki and ask on
> the mailing list. If you propose something, discuss it on the mailing
> list.
>
> You can also sim
On Sunday 29 August 2010 23:24:37 Matthias Meißer wrote:
> Ok but IMHO this channel should be usable for the most people and allow
> a team based working right? So a wiki is good, isn't it?
No, a wiki is one of a multitude of options to choose from on a case by case
base. It is not good for it to
Ok but IMHO this channel should be usable for the most people and allow
a team based working right? So a wiki is good, isn't it?
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On Sunday 29 August 2010 22:12:09 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> Am 29. August 2010 11:05 schrieb Matthias Meißer :
> > So how do you design a tag in a team without the proposal process?
>
> you find something that is not yet documented on the wiki and ask on
> the mailing list. If you propose someth
Am 29. August 2010 11:05 schrieb Matthias Meißer :
> So how do you design a tag in a team without the proposal process?
you find something that is not yet documented on the wiki and ask on
the mailing list. If you propose something, discuss it on the mailing
list.
You can also simply use a tag.
Come on let's keep emotions out of here ;)
It doesn't seem like you've thought this through very well, nor
developed this proposal in a team and your suggestion seems to be in
conflict and you don't have a very clear proposal page so you better
tag your own page as having no proposal, it seems t
What exactly did you not understand when I explained this to you earlier? I'll
try it with short sentences this time.
The proposal system is broken completely. So broken it is unfixable.
Because of that, the proposal system is ignored by the vast majority of
mappers.
So for a tag to have a pro
2010/8/29 Matthias Meißer :
> What I try to improve is the Wiki, just the wiki and within this step the
> map features related pages.
It doesn't seem like you've thought this through very well, nor
developed this proposal in a team and your suggestion seems to be in
conflict and you don't have a v
Ok I think we are turning into a cicle.
> So you are planning to tag pages as having no proposal if they, are
> less used or provokes conflict?
> What has any of that have to do with having a proposal page at all
What I try to improve is the Wiki, just the wiki and within this step
the map fea
2010/8/29 Matthias Meißer :
> Plase have a look at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:No_proposal
> which explains why a page is so labeled.
So you are planning to tag pages as having no proposal if they, are
less used or provokes conflict?
What has any of that have to do with having a p
2010/8/29 Matthias Meißer :
> Cause the mentioned facts hit. So we can have an overview tool to manage the
> map feature list better.
How does having a proposal page help with this at all?
>> Why is it so important that there is any proposal page?
>
> It's not. As explained on the template page
what do you think that "no proposal" means?
it point's that there is no proposal and there are additional problems.
does it mean that it is not official?
What does official mean exactly?
does it mean that a tag is commonly used and its meaning is commonly
understood and still not documented?
d
Why do such pages need to be tagged as such?
Cause the mentioned facts hit. So we can have an overview tool to manage
the map feature list better.
Why is it so important that there is any proposal page?
It's not. As explained on the template page itself we try to give the
wiki an better orde
2010/8/29 Matthias Meißer :
> Hi, John Smith showed me, that it would be good to discuss the usage of the
> {{no proposal}} template
Why do such pages need to be tagged as such?
Why is it so important that there is any proposal page?
What about proposal pages that are moved to be the main page
d
> Hi, John Smith showed me, that it would be good to discuss the usage of
> the {{no proposal}} template even if I thought that I allready talked
> about here
> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2010-August/003518.html
what do you think that "no proposal" means?
does it mean that it
Hi, John Smith showed me, that it would be good to discuss the usage of
the {{no proposal}} template even if I thought that I allready talked
about here
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2010-August/003518.html
This template should show esp. newcommers that the feature isn't ver
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