Re: [Tagging] Page about mismatching key names (historic=wayside_shrine used for modern ones etc)

2020-01-25 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Looks like a good idea - moved Jan 24, 2020, 18:33 by derickso...@gmail.com: > Rather than "Mismatching key names", what about "Counterintuitive key names"? > > On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 9:20 AM Volker Schmidt <> vosc...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> OK, >> my wording was intentionally provoking. But

Re: [Tagging] Page about mismatching key names (historic=wayside_shrine used for modern ones etc)

2020-01-24 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Jan 24, 2020, 18:19 by vosc...@gmail.com: > Human readability is a convenience, but is not reflected in the data > structure at all. > I strongly disagree with this. Nearly all tags are human readable, with rare exception like extremely complicated opening hours or wikidata (where lack of human

Re: [Tagging] Page about mismatching key names (historic=wayside_shrine used for modern ones etc)

2020-01-24 Thread Evan Derickson
Rather than "Mismatching key names", what about "Counterintuitive key names"? On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 9:20 AM Volker Schmidt wrote: > OK, > my wording was intentionally provoking. But this basic conceptual issue is > at the base of many unnecessary tagging modifications. > I refrained from

Re: [Tagging] Page about mismatching key names (historic=wayside_shrine used for modern ones etc)

2020-01-24 Thread Volker Schmidt
OK, my wording was intentionally provoking. But this basic conceptual issue is at the base of many unnecessary tagging modifications. I refrained from adding the OSM version of the duck principle. One of the items in the proposed page illustrates well why I think people need to get the message

Re: [Tagging] Page about mismatching key names (historic=wayside_shrine used for modern ones etc)

2020-01-24 Thread Jarek PiĆ³rkowski
On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 at 09:12, Volker Schmidt wrote: > Il ven 24 gen 2020, 11:51 Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging > ha scritto: >> One of topics often appearing is mismatch between meaning of key >> and key text. >> ... >> It is created at >>

Re: [Tagging] Page about mismatching key names (historic=wayside_shrine used for modern ones etc)

2020-01-24 Thread Volker Schmidt
These are no mismatches. Keys and values are in principle arbitrary sequences of alphanumeric characters. By convention we try to make them mnemonic by using strings that somehow help us remember the meaning of the string. By convention we use British English words for keys and values, plus

[Tagging] Page about mismatching key names (historic=wayside_shrine used for modern ones etc)

2020-01-24 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
One of topics often appearing is mismatch between meaning of key and key text. Especially among newbies interested in discussions. "why we use natural=water for man made canals?" "why we tag man made beaches as natural=?" "Lets migrate natural=water to landcover=water". So far I was basically