Re: [Tagging] Photo links in OSM

2013-06-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I have revised the proposal per comments received: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Image ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Photo links in OSM

2013-06-23 Thread Tac Tacelosky
I've been using our streetviews (customstreetviews.com) to update OSM, and would like to throw a few ideas out for consideration. Street-level photos have a lat/long, but that location is not the location of the item in the photo. Panoramic images, like ours, have a lat/long of the camera, but

Re: [Tagging] Photo links in OSM

2013-06-23 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/23/13 7:21 AM, Tac Tacelosky wrote: I've been using our streetviews (customstreetviews.com) to update OSM, and would like to throw a few ideas out for consideration. Street-level photos have a lat/long, but that location is not the location of the item in the photo. Panoramic images, like

Re: [Tagging] Photo links in OSM

2013-06-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 4:21 AM, Tac Tacelosky tac...@gmail.com wrote: Has the idea of an image archive for OSM been brought up before? I know about openstreetview.org, but as far as I can see, it's mostly geotagged photos, there's not a lot of metadata there, nor integration explicitly with

Re: [Tagging] Photo links in OSM

2013-06-23 Thread Johan C
My one year old Samsung Galaxy S3 has got the ability to geotag photos. If there would be an app which can use such a geotagged photo and link it to an OSM POI nearby, than I would go for that. Upload it under ODbL, no copyright issues, Cost is a secondary thing which can be solved. Cheers, Johan

Re: [Tagging] Photo links in OSM

2013-06-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Johan C osm...@gmail.com wrote: My one year old Samsung Galaxy S3 has got the ability to geotag photos. If there would be an app which can use such a geotagged photo and link it to an OSM POI nearby, than I would go for that. Upload it under ODbL, no

Re: [Tagging] Photo links in OSM

2013-06-17 Thread Richard Finegold
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.comwrote: While there is considerable interest in historical data attached to OSM objects, the image tag is not the place to innovate. Photographs are inherently historical: weather and lighting can (and, obviously, will)

Re: [Tagging] Photo links in OSM

2013-06-12 Thread Zecke
Am 11.06.2013 23:19, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: Here is image=File:Dresden Theaterplatz 138.JPG wouldn't it be better to have all values tagged according to the same rules, i.e. use a fully qualified url for the image tag?

Re: [Tagging] Photo links in OSM

2013-06-12 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
discussion, strategy and related tools tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] Photo links in OSM ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Photo links in OSM

2013-06-12 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/12/13 8:24 AM, Jaakko Helleranta.com wrote: I was actually about to post a comment myself that more than one image _might_ be justified in some casaes -- but having images from different time is probably not a good idea. Especially: image:date=url would seem not suitable for OSM. Or what

Re: [Tagging] Photo links in OSM

2013-06-12 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/12/13 3:38 AM, Zecke wrote: image:date=url dated image, where date format undergoes the rules described e.g. here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:start_date (only such date formats without blanks should be used -

Re: [Tagging] Photo links in OSM

2013-06-12 Thread Zecke
Am 12.06.2013 14:36, schrieb Richard Welty: i'm not at all enthusiastic about having a variable value like that as a key Well, I understand your concern. I would much prefer a lifecycle relation or even a data model supporting key-value lists as a valid value. I also see much resistance to

Re: [Tagging] Photo links in OSM

2013-06-12 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/12/13 9:28 AM, Zecke wrote: Am 12.06.2013 14:36, schrieb Richard Welty: i'm not at all enthusiastic about having a variable value like that as a key Well, I understand your concern. I would much prefer a lifecycle relation or even a data model supporting key-value lists as a valid value.

Re: [Tagging] Photo links in OSM

2013-06-12 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Is it possible to view geotagged Flickr photos or geotagged photos from some other reputable image hosting service in JOSM? Flickr, Picasa, what-not would be good. .. And even better if it was possible to choose to view only photos of certain license (thinking of different CC licenses). I thought

Re: [Tagging] Photo links in OSM

2013-06-12 Thread Tac Tacelosky
How are your photos geotagged? Is it coded in the EXIF data, or is there separate metadata? And if so, what kind of data do you have? We have a photo-based tagging project that doesn't use OSM, but I have some experience in methods for feature extraction, I'd be happy to share some of our

Re: [Tagging] Photo links in OSM

2013-06-12 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:38 AM, Zecke z...@saeuferleber.de wrote: image:ancient=url ancient image of the object image:date=url dated image, where date format undergoes the rules described e.g. here:

Re: [Tagging] Photo links in OSM

2013-06-12 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
FOR YOUR COMMENT PRIOR TO VOTING: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Image ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Photo links in OSM

2013-06-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/6/12 Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com Abandoned objects however are fine: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:abandoned They should be mapped as they are now, and can leave some traces as to what they were. to some extent many objects that did not directly leave physical remains

Re: [Tagging] Photo links in OSM

2013-06-11 Thread Ab_fab
FYI : You may also have a look at the OsmFlickr service http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Flickr http://demo.3liz.com/osmflickr/ It works the other way around. 2013/6/11 Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com I'm interested in revisiting the issue of attaching links to photographs in OSM via

Re: [Tagging] Photo links in OSM

2013-06-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 5:50 AM, René Kirchhoff rene-kirchh...@arcor.dewrote: Hello, see TagInfo: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=image There are not 322. There are 12 162... Ah, so there are. If I adpot and re-open for vote

Re: [Tagging] Photo links in OSM

2013-06-11 Thread René Kirchhoff
see http://geschichtskarten.openstreetmap.de/historische_objekte/?zoom=18lat=51.05419lon=13.73556layers=BFTTselect=n248573020 This is OSM-Node: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/248573020 Here is image=File:Dresden Theaterplatz 138.JPG This is for the image:

Re: [Tagging] Photo links in OSM

2013-06-11 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/11/13 4:01 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 5:50 AM, René Kirchhoff rene-kirchh...@arcor.dewrote: Hello, see TagInfo: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=image There are not 322. There are 12 162... Ah, so there are. If I adpot and re-open for vote

Re: [Tagging] Photo links in OSM

2013-06-11 Thread René Kirchhoff
Hello, we also use flickr: http://geschichtskarten.openstreetmap.de/historische_objekte/?zoom=18lon=7.21383lat=50.6656layers=BFTTselect=n259103401 This is Node: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/259103401 Here is in image=http://www.flickr.com/photos/osmwolf/8624644661/ And we view

Re: [Tagging] Photo links in OSM

2013-06-11 Thread René Kirchhoff
More informations in German about image=* http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Historische_Objekte#Bildvorschau see Chapter: *Wikimedia-Commons-Bild-URL *and* * *flickr-Bild-URL * Gruß René* * ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Photo links in OSM

2013-06-11 Thread Mike N
On 6/11/2013 4:18 PM, Richard Welty wrote: i'm not sure that flickr links to jpgs are particularly stable, you may want to consider that in your documentation of a flickr link. flickr links these days look like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nfgusedautoparts/8596790653/ and while you can

Re: [Tagging] Photo links in OSM

2013-06-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/6/11 René Kirchhoff rene-kirchh...@arcor.de This is OSM-Node: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/248573020 Here is image=File:Dresden Theaterplatz 138.JPG wouldn't it be better to have all values tagged according to the same rules, i.e. use a fully qualified url for the image

Re: [Tagging] Photo links in OSM

2013-06-11 Thread Richard Welty
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nfgusedautoparts/8596790653/ and while you can dig up a direct link to a jpg, it looks like this: http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8366/8596790653_06bb215baf_k_d.jpg and i'm just not persuaded that flickr will honor this as a permanent link. I can find the direct

Re: [Tagging] Photo links in OSM

2013-06-11 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/11/13 4:38 PM, René Kirchhoff wrote: Hello, we also use flickr: http://geschichtskarten.openstreetmap.de/historische_objekte/?zoom=18lon=7.21383lat=50.6656layers=BFTTselect=n259103401 and that's fine. i was specifically commenting on the proposal that might be revived, and it clearly

Re: [Tagging] Photo links in OSM

2013-06-11 Thread Tac Tacelosky
Thanks for bringing up this topic, it's also something I'd like to revive. In particular, when a new amenity is being added from one of our panoramic photos from customstreetview.com, I'd like to provide a reference back to that. For example, here's a fitness center from an area that has very

[Tagging] Photo links in OSM

2013-06-10 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I'm interested in revisiting the issue of attaching links to photographs in OSM via tag. There's an ancient stale proposal at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Image But no hint of why the proposal was abandoned, or any of the points of debate. There seems to be little push