Re: [Tagging] Populated settlement classification

2019-09-07 Thread Warin
On 08/09/19 01:24, Iago Casabiell wrote: Well, as there is no clear consensus in how to classify between hamlets, villages, towns and cities, i'd tried to move the debate as best i could. My goal would be to create a default algorithm to classify these places, but as jeisenbe pointed out, the

Re: [Tagging] Populated settlement classification

2019-09-07 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 7 Sep 2019 at 20:15, Kevin Kenny wrote: > On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 2:27 PM Paul Allen wrote: > > All of which contrasts with US usage where it appears that any > settlement of any size > > can style itself a city. > > Each of the fifty states very likely has a different set of rules. > The

Re: [Tagging] Populated settlement classification

2019-09-07 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 2:27 PM Paul Allen wrote: > All of which contrasts with US usage where it appears that any settlement of > any size > can style itself a city. Each of the fifty states very likely has a different set of rules. There's also a difference between the style and the legality.

Re: [Tagging] Populated settlement classification

2019-09-07 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 7 Sep 2019 at 18:23, Colin Smale wrote: Aah, I thought you were implying that some places were wilfully > misrepresenting themselves for "marketing" reasons! > That's actually how I remembered it. But now you've prodded my memory, I think what I actually read was that there are a number

Re: [Tagging] Populated settlement classification

2019-09-07 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-09-07 19:04, Paul Allen wrote: > On Sat, 7 Sep 2019 at 17:37, Colin Smale wrote: > > On 2019-09-07 18:17, Paul Allen wrote: > > Some > large towns have taken to calling themselves cities even though they do not > have a royal > charter awarding them that status. > > Got any exampl

Re: [Tagging] Populated settlement classification

2019-09-07 Thread dcapillae
+1 Wolfgang Zenker wrote > * Iago Casabiell < > iagocasabiell@ > > [190907 18:29]: >> Exactly, so how do we solve this? > > Very simple: By letting the people tag it that live there and have local > knowledge. They know what the place is called locally, and that usually > is based on a complex

Re: [Tagging] Populated settlement classification

2019-09-07 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 7 Sep 2019 at 17:37, Colin Smale wrote: > On 2019-09-07 18:17, Paul Allen wrote: > > Some > large towns have taken to calling themselves cities even though they do > not have a royal > charter awarding them that status. > > > Got any examples of this? > My crappy memory doesn't remember

Re: [Tagging] Populated settlement classification

2019-09-07 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
* Iago Casabiell [190907 18:29]: > Exactly, so how do we solve this? Very simple: By letting the people tag it that live there and have local knowledge. They know what the place is called locally, and that usually is based on a complex amalgamation of size, population, cultural, economic and hist

Re: [Tagging] Populated settlement classification

2019-09-07 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-09-07 18:17, Paul Allen wrote: > Some > large towns have taken to calling themselves cities even though they do not > have a royal > charter awarding them that status. Got any examples of this?___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.or

[Tagging] Populated settlement classification

2019-09-07 Thread Iago Casabiell
Exactly, so how do we solve this? There are comments in the wiki suggesting to create new tags, like place=big_hamlet, place=small_town, etc. But as jeisenbe pointed out, it's already complicated enough. Basing the classification solely on population would make the tag:population redundant. There

Re: [Tagging] Populated settlement classification

2019-09-07 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 7 Sep 2019 at 11:44, Iago Casabiell wrote: > > I generated a proposal for the classification criteria of populated > settlements here: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Populated_settlements_classification > . > As others have said, we strive for global applicabilit

[Tagging] Populated settlement classification

2019-09-07 Thread Iago Casabiell
Well, as there is no clear consensus in how to classify between hamlets, villages, towns and cities, i'd tried to move the debate as best i could. My goal would be to create a default algorithm to classify these places, but as jeisenbe pointed out, there are several criterias around the globe as t

Re: [Tagging] Populated settlement classification

2019-09-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
adding to what Christoph has explained, as we try to have globally meaningful and comparable tags, I believe we should focus on functional (which services + functions are present) and maybe cultural (how is the place regionally seen/valued, which often has also to do with political and historical s

Re: [Tagging] Populated settlement classification

2019-09-07 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Saturday 07 September 2019, Iago Casabiell wrote: > I'm new to the mailing list, so first I'm sorry if I miss any step in > a proposal for the wiki. > > I generated a proposal for the classification criteria of populated > settlements here: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features

[Tagging] Populated settlement classification

2019-09-07 Thread Iago Casabiell
I'm new to the mailing list, so first I'm sorry if I miss any step in a proposal for the wiki. I generated a proposal for the classification criteria of populated settlements here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Populated_settlements_classification .