[Tagging] RFC key:oven - a tag to add details about a kind of oven

2015-10-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
I'm writing to you on behalf of user Giardia to you, asking about comments for a new tag proposal to tag the kind of an oven (e.g. for a pizza place or a bakery, maybe also in different context). https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Key:oven Cheers, Martin ___

Re: [Tagging] RFC key:oven - a tag to add details about a kind of oven

2015-10-14 Thread Volker Schmidt
In this context: What about stand-alone ovens, like this one: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/375213024/ https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Brotofen_in_Gr%C3%BCnreuth.jpg I have found very few of these actually on OSM (unless I used the wrong tag), and no wiki page, but there should be many

Re: [Tagging] RFC key:oven - a tag to add details about a kind of oven

2015-10-14 Thread Tom Pfeifer
Volker Schmidt wrote on 2015-10-14 13:06: In this context: What about stand-alone ovens, like this one: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/375213024/ https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Brotofen_in_Gr%C3%BCnreuth.jpg man_made=kiln https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dkiln I s

Re: [Tagging] RFC key:oven - a tag to add details about a kind of oven

2015-10-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 14.10.2015 um 13:06 schrieb Volker Schmidt : > > I suppose they are separate category, but should be mentioned in the proposal. I think oven=wood_fired would fit well, but I'd rather see this tag as an attribute, so maybe an additional tag should go there, like man_mad

Re: [Tagging] RFC key:oven - a tag to add details about a kind of oven

2015-10-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 14.10.2015 um 13:49 schrieb Tom Pfeifer : > > man_made=kiln > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dkiln a kiln is an oven, but not every oven is a kiln. The one above is for baking bread, it's not a kiln. cheers Martin _

Re: [Tagging] RFC key:oven - a tag to add details about a kind of oven

2015-10-14 Thread johnw
> On Oct 14, 2015, at 9:06 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > >> >> Am 14.10.2015 um 13:49 schrieb Tom Pfeifer > >: >> >> man_made=kiln >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dkiln >> > >

Re: [Tagging] RFC key:oven - a tag to add details about a kind of oven

2015-10-14 Thread Volker Schmidt
I confirm that kilns are not ovens for any kind of food. So let's concentrate on food ovens. I mentioned the subject for two reasons: 1) I expect a considerable overlap between the two oven categories. In the western world we are used to the idea that food ovens are normally inside restaurants, but

Re: [Tagging] RFC key:oven - a tag to add details about a kind of oven

2015-10-14 Thread Tom Pfeifer
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote on 2015-10-14 14:06: Am 14.10.2015 um 13:49 schrieb Tom Pfeifer: man_made=kiln https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dkiln a kiln is an oven, but not every oven is a kiln. The one above is for baking bread, it's not a kiln. Oxford dictionary describes k

Re: [Tagging] RFC key:oven - a tag to add details about a kind of oven

2015-10-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-10-14 15:35 GMT+02:00 Tom Pfeifer : > While the wikipedia article focuses on the industrial use, that does not > exclude the meaning in food preparation, in particular in a low-tech > environment. > admittedly there are a lot hits for "bread kiln" in my searchengine. The problem is, the osm

Re: [Tagging] RFC key:oven - a tag to add details about a kind of oven

2015-10-14 Thread John Willis
> On Oct 14, 2015, at 10:35 PM, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > > > Oxford dictionary describes kiln as > "a furnace or oven for burning, baking, or drying, esp. one for calcining > lime or firing pottery." We should really separate things used to prepare foods and things used to make pottery, regardle