Re: [Tagging] Tag for "tax free shopping"

2020-01-01 Thread Colin Smale
On 2020-01-01 02:04, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 at 19:16, Colin Smale wrote:What > do you consider a definition of "duty free" or "duty free shop" > that would be useful to a OSM data consumer? > Which OSM data consumer? > > Just a reminder: I didn't start this, I am merely

Re: [Tagging] Tag for "tax free shopping"

2019-12-31 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 at 19:16, Colin Smale wrote: >> What do you consider a definition of "duty free" or "duty free shop" >> that would be useful to a OSM data consumer? > > Which OSM data consumer? > > Just a reminder: I didn't start this, I am merely trying to add a nuance to > the data

Re: [Tagging] Tag for "tax free shopping"

2019-12-31 Thread Hauke Stieler
Hi, > Which OSM data consumer? I personally thought of tourists wanting to buy stuff. As you mentioned, a EU-tourist has no benefit of this duty-free-information, but I also think of tourists (from) outside the EU. As a use case: I think of the OsmAnd app filtering for duty-free-shops where

Re: [Tagging] Tag for "tax free shopping"

2019-12-31 Thread Colin Smale
On 2020-01-01 00:54, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 at 18:48, Colin Smale wrote: > >> Just to be clear: in the situation I am referring to, an article priced at >> GBP120 in such a mixed shop is GBP120 net to an exporting passenger, but >> GBP100 net + GBP20 tax (@20% VAT) to

Re: [Tagging] Tag for "tax free shopping"

2019-12-31 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 at 18:48, Colin Smale wrote: > Just to be clear: in the situation I am referring to, an article priced at > GBP120 in such a mixed shop is GBP120 net to an exporting passenger, but > GBP100 net + GBP20 tax (@20% VAT) to a non-exporting passenger. Everybody > pays the same,

Re: [Tagging] Tag for "tax free shopping"

2019-12-31 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-12-31 23:55, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 at 17:37, Colin Smale wrote: On > 2019-12-31 23:04, Hauke Stieler wrote: that's true, the EU is one special > case here. But would the status of a > traveler influence the tagging schema of "duty_free=*" in your opinion? > The

Re: [Tagging] Tag for "tax free shopping"

2019-12-31 Thread Hauke Stieler
Hi,   > In terms of tagging, the scenario described could be something like > duty_free=export - meaning YES if you are exporting it beyond the > customs union area (~~EU), otherwise NO. But isn't this always and everywhere the case (as Jarek mentioned before me)? My idea of the duty_free tag

Re: [Tagging] Tag for "tax free shopping"

2019-12-31 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 at 17:37, Colin Smale wrote: > On 2019-12-31 23:04, Hauke Stieler wrote: >> that's true, the EU is one special case here. But would the status of a >> traveler influence the tagging schema of "duty_free=*" in your opinion? > > The EU is only a special case because there are

Re: [Tagging] Tag for "tax free shopping"

2019-12-31 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-12-31 23:04, Hauke Stieler wrote: > Hi, > > that's true, the EU is one special case here. But would the status of a > traveler influence the tagging schema of "duty_free=*" in your opinion? The EU is only a special case because there are multiple countries within a single customs area

Re: [Tagging] Tag for "tax free shopping"

2019-12-31 Thread Hauke Stieler
Hi, that's true, the EU is one special case here. But would the status of a traveler influence the tagging schema of "duty_free=*" in your opinion? Hauke signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Tag for "tax free shopping"

2019-12-31 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-12-26 06:14, John Willis via Tagging wrote: > However, in airports, there are pointedly "duty free" shops for (all) > travelers. that have no ability to collect taxes for any purchase, so > shop=gifts + duty_free=designated might be a good way to do it for these > specialty shops in

Re: [Tagging] Tag for "tax free shopping"

2019-12-31 Thread Hauke Stieler
Hi Javbw, so you suggest only a "duty_free=" key with the values "yes|no|designated"? I like your idea of having only one key "duty_free" but I would choose different values. The tags "duty_free=yes" vs. "=designated" might be confusing. My idea: duty_free=yes E.g. Shop in

Re: [Tagging] Tag for "tax free shopping"

2019-12-25 Thread John Willis via Tagging
Almost all department stores in Japan advertise this for travelers, as it is part of their standardized signage, so you will see it even in rural or remote branches (not just near the airport or In. Tokyo. While I wouldn’t expect this service at small shops, it is a common sight to see “tax

Re: [Tagging] Tag for "tax free shopping"

2019-12-24 Thread marc marc
Hello, boith tags look fine, except the unneeded use of a namespace duty_free= (already exist 6 time) tax_refund= Regards, Marc Le 23.12.19 à 21:25, Hauke Stieler a écrit : > Hi all, > > so I think of creating/establishing two new tags: > > shop:duty_free= > -> Shops in airports where nobody

Re: [Tagging] Tag for "tax free shopping"

2019-12-23 Thread Hauke Stieler
Hi all, so I think of creating/establishing two new tags: shop:duty_free= -> Shops in airports where nobody has to pay taxes at all (those usual duty-free shops) shop:tax_refund= -> Shops in cities where you pay taxes like in every other shop but(!) you can get a receipt to get a tax refund

Re: [Tagging] Tag for "tax free shopping"

2019-12-20 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Just duty_free=yes would be good for a shop in town which offers tax-free sales for international travelers. But the tag ship=duty_free is probably fine for shops in the international airport terminal which sell a mix of alcohol, perfume and other expensive gifts. Joseph On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at

Re: [Tagging] Tag for "tax free shopping"

2019-12-20 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On 12/20/19 16:35, Hauke Stieler wrote: > Using shop=duty_free would unfortunately remove possible existing tags > like shop=fashion, therefore I hope for additional tags as I mentioned. And I think this is enough reason to deprecate shop=duty_free in favor of e.g. shop:duty_free=yes or similar.

Re: [Tagging] Tag for "tax free shopping"

2019-12-20 Thread Hauke Stieler
Hi Graeme, unfortunately the situation is slightly different in Germany. Those shops I meant are no duty-free shops in general. According to the German customs [0] the refund of the taxes is also only possible under certain conditions. As far as I understand it's not possible for me as German

Re: [Tagging] Tag for "tax free shopping"

2019-12-20 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 21 Dec 2019 at 00:02, Hauke Stieler wrote: > Hi, > > I recently found several stores (pharmacy, clothing store, jewelery and > others) which offer "tax free shopping". For those of you who don't know > it, this works as follows: > At least in Australia, & apparently internationally as

[Tagging] Tag for "tax free shopping"

2019-12-20 Thread Hauke Stieler
Hi, I recently found several stores (pharmacy, clothing store, jewelery and others) which offer "tax free shopping". For those of you who don't know it, this works as follows: You buy something and next to your normal receipt, you'll also get an additional receipt with some tax information on