2011/1/19 :
> Some jurisdictions define city status in law, some don't. Among those
> jurisdictions that do define cities in law, not all use the same definition.
> This not only can vary from country to country, but even within the same
> country (for example, in the USA, the state of Tennes
7;t define what is
a city, the state of Virginia does do so).
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Subject :Re: [Tagging] Tagging Metropolis
>From :mailto:ed...@billiau.net
Date :Wed Jan 19 04:07:35 America/Chicago 2011
> On 19 January 2011 16:49, Steve Bennett wrote:
>> atlases etc.
2011/1/19 Phil! Gold :
> * Steve Bennett [2011-01-19 15:17 +1100]:
>> I suggest we investigate something like a general prominence=* tag,
>> with values of 1-10.
>
> I wouldn't be opposed to this, but I keep thinking a two-tiered system
> like the Ranally City Rating System[0] might be a better ap
* Steve Bennett [2011-01-19 15:17 +1100]:
> I suggest we investigate something like a general prominence=* tag,
> with values of 1-10.
I wouldn't be opposed to this, but I keep thinking a two-tiered system
like the Ranally City Rating System[0] might be a better approach. You'd
have one axis for
2011/1/19 Pieren :
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 5:17 AM, Steve Bennett wrote:
>>
> Why instead of "prominence", we don't call it "font_size" ? (which is what
> it is at the end)
no, that would be too few: it is also (maybe mostly) about _when_ to
display a settlement's name, and to determine layer
2011/1/19 John Smith :
> On 19 January 2011 14:17, Steve Bennett wrote:
> The problem here is subject v objective tagging, in terms of airports
> this can be objective stated based on international flights a day and
> the same with cities, if you want to indicate population tag
> population, take
> On 19 January 2011 16:49, Steve Bennett wrote:
>> atlases etc. A town of 50,000 would barely even rate a mention in
>> France, whereas that's pretty big for Australia. And a town like Eucla
>> in the nullarbor (pop 50) has very high prominence as it's the only
>> place for many miles with accomm
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 5:17 AM, Steve Bennett wrote:
> I suggest we investigate something like a general prominence=* tag,
> with values of 1-10. Define some defaults, like:
>
> 1
> 2 Hamlet
> 3
> 4 Village
> 5
> 6 Town
> 7 National capital (if not bigger)
> 8
> 9 City
> 10
>
>
Why instead of "p
On 19 January 2011 16:49, Steve Bennett wrote:
> atlases etc. A town of 50,000 would barely even rate a mention in
> France, whereas that's pretty big for Australia. And a town like Eucla
> in the nullarbor (pop 50) has very high prominence as it's the only
> place for many miles with accommodatio
What ever solution we are going to use. By rendering all countries,
the relative picture should be the same.
Prominence 4 in America is a city with a lot more inhabitants then a
prominace 4 in Belgium. Knowledge of the country should decide the
prominence. To have a clear discussion, ever
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Peter Wendorff
wrote:
> Or take the Sucre, the capitol of Bolivien (193k people) and compare to
> Santa Cruz de la Sierra (biggest city of the country) with 1.1m people.
Funnily enough many people in Bolivia count La Paz (about 2m) as the
Capital, the president i
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 4:27 PM, John Smith wrote:
> The problem here is subject v objective tagging, in terms of airports
> this can be objective stated based on international flights a day and
> the same with cities, if you want to indicate population tag
> population, take for example some regi
On 19 January 2011 14:17, Steve Bennett wrote:
> Remember how we recently had a discussion about how to tag airports?
> Exactly the same problem. There will be many other examples, like
> schools, parks, mountains etc etc. If we want to produce good
> cartography, we need to be tagging for it.
Th
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:11 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
wrote:
> There is a proposal in the wiki by user: MojaveNC which doesn't look bad:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Metropolis
The problem of prominence affects a lot more than just cities. Adding
a single tag to handle a
On 19 January 2011 05:41, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> 2011/1/18 Robert Elsenaar :
>> Great idea to reactivate is again. New times, new ideas.
>>
>> I think capitals should be tagged to be Metropolis to also when they do not
>> have enough inhibitans to be granted as one.
>
>
> -1, what is the poi
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 5:00 PM, wrote:
> You then start getting debates such as whether Dallas and Fort Worth should
> count as two separate metropolitan areas, or as one metropolitan area that
> includes both cities.
Do what the census bureau does: if the urbanized areas touch, it's a
single
You then start getting debates such as whether Dallas and Fort Worth should
count as two separate metropolitan areas, or as one metropolitan area that
includes both cities.
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>From :mailto:nerou...@gmail.com
Date :Tue Jan
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Peter Wendorff
wrote:
> even the US with Washington DC (500k) vs New York (>8m) are a good example.
Though this is an example where using metropolitan area figures would
be better (NYC is still out in front but DC is pretty respectable).
_
I think capitals should be tagged to be Metropolis to also when they
do not have enough inhibitans to be granted as one.
-Robert-
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Le 18/01/2011 20:41, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer a écrit :
2011/1/18 Robert Elsenaar:
Great idea to reactivate is again. New times, new ideas.
I think capitals should be tagged to be Metropolis to also when they do not
have enough inhibitans to be granted as one.
-1, what is the point of this? The ke
2011/1/18 Robert Elsenaar :
> Great idea to reactivate is again. New times, new ideas.
>
> I think capitals should be tagged to be Metropolis to also when they do not
> have enough inhibitans to be granted as one.
-1, what is the point of this? The key: capital already tells you, if
it's a capita
: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
Subject: [Tagging] Tagging Metropolis
Looking at some big cities in Europe I find (not for the first time, I
know) some mapping bugs regarding some of the more important cities,
e.g. L'Hospitalet de Llolobregad [1], Treviso [2], Avellino [3],
[1]
Looking at some big cities in Europe I find (not for the first time, I
know) some mapping bugs regarding some of the more important cities,
e.g. L'Hospitalet de Llolobregad [1], Treviso [2], Avellino [3],
[1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=41.43&mlon=2.11&zoom=7&layers=M
[2] http://www.openstr
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