Re: [Tagging] Track grades

2014-07-10 Thread Ole Nielsen
On 09/07/2014 01:08, David Bannon wrote: I don't really care exactly how it is done as long as we end up with a clear model advising people whether or not they should attempt a particular road. I have posted references to lost lives as a result of bad decisions. Its easier to get people to take

Re: [Tagging] Track grades

2014-07-10 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Jesse Crawford wrote: > > As a second but similar question, off-highway vehicles are a popular > pasttime here and there are many tracks intended for ATVs or dirtbikes, not > wide enough for SUVs. Is there a best practice for tagging these types of > paths? > I ha

Re: [Tagging] Track grades

2014-07-09 Thread SomeoneElse
On 09/07/2014 12:32, Janko Mihelic' wrote: 2014-07-09 12:08 GMT+02:00 Pieren >: Forget the "smoothness" tag please. We might replace it by the 4wd tag (but it's only a partial solution) or another passable tag (for city car, 4wd, mtb, etc) I don't think sm

Re: [Tagging] Track grades

2014-07-09 Thread Janko Mihelić
2014-07-09 12:08 GMT+02:00 Pieren : > Forget the "smoothness" tag > please. We might replace it by the 4wd tag (but it's only a partial > solution) or another passable tag (for city car, 4wd, mtb, etc) > > I don't think smoothness should be forgotten, it should just have better values. Something l

Re: [Tagging] Track grades

2014-07-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 09/lug/2014 um 12:08 schrieb Pieren : > > You cannot expect that any renderer will be able to display all > possible combinations of these three keys and dozen values. Or you map > is unreadable. you don't have to display every combination differently, you could have lists where you redu

Re: [Tagging] Track grades

2014-07-09 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote: > The combination of tracktype, surface and smoothness could fit the bill. You cannot expect that any renderer will be able to display all possible combinations of these three keys and dozen values. Or you map is unreadable. > However smoothn

Re: [Tagging] Track grades

2014-07-08 Thread David Bannon
Jesse, you are very welcome ! I have campaigned on this topic a couple of times but without really achieving any consensus. Chief problem is some people's fear of 'subjectiveness'. I don't really care exactly how it is done as long as we end up with a clear model advising people whether or not t

Re: [Tagging] Track grades

2014-07-08 Thread Volker Schmidt
The combination of tracktype, surface and smoothness could fit the bill. However smoothness values are ill-defined and would need more objective classification, but they also refer to things like high-clearance vehicles see: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:smoothness On 8 July 2014 21:14

Re: [Tagging] Track grades

2014-07-08 Thread Marc Gemis
Hello Jesse, welcome to this list. This is indeed the right list to post this type of questions. However, this question has popped up every few months the past year and so far so consensus has been reached. You can always search the tagging archive and you'll find threads such as https://www.mai

[Tagging] Track grades

2014-07-08 Thread Jesse Crawford
Apologies if this is the wrong list, I'm new to the community. On the wiki talk page for tracktype [1] there is some discussion from Australians of this property not properly reflecting road usability. Here in desert New Mexico I am working on significantly improving mapping of tracks, and I have