Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

2020-02-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 7 feb 2020, alle ore 10:19, Lionel Giard > ha scritto: > > But creating a new relation type which would be with the same specification > than a site relation would be a bit weird to me. we’ve done this for boundary relations too, which are essentially multipol

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

2020-02-07 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Feb 6, 2020, 10:14 by lionel.gi...@gmail.com: > One problem with multipolygon relation is that by definition you can't put > > node > it those and you can't put > contiguous buildings> either > Nodes are a problem. Contiguous buildings are solvable, but it requires turning buildings into mult

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

2020-02-07 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Thanks for all comments! For now I created https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Duniversity#Complex_areas to document complexity discovered during this discussion. This way we can avoid remaking entire discussion next time and problem is at least documented. Feb 6, 2020, 11:34 by vo

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

2020-02-07 Thread Volker Schmidt
On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 10:19, Lionel Giard wrote: > The site relation was originally created for groups of features : power > plant (wind turbine nodes spread over the land or sea), historical sites > (often only some element (one tower, one building, ...) are historic and > not the entire place)

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

2020-02-07 Thread Lionel Giard
The site relation was originally created for groups of features : power plant (wind turbine nodes spread over the land or sea), historical sites (often only some element (one tower, one building, ...) are historic and not the entire place) and parking (especially underground parking with only entra

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

2020-02-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 6 feb 2020, alle ore 11:37, Volker Schmidt ha > scritto: > > Sorry, Martin, but what do you do, if you have a big multi-storey building > and all you have is the door bell on the street level? Not map it? that’s indeed a problem with multipolygons ;) But you w

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

2020-02-06 Thread Volker Schmidt
Sorry, Martin, but what do you do, if you have a big multi-storey building and all you have is the door bell on the street level? Not map it? The Tuebingen example illustrates the problem. The relation has two nodes in a multipolygon as outer? That is not kosher either. Volker On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 a

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

2020-02-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Do., 6. Feb. 2020 um 11:01 Uhr schrieb Volker Schmidt : > Padua, Italy, where I live, has a big university spread all over the > place. This includes smaller sections being in apartments in buildings that > are mainly used residentially. > yes, I am also well familiar with universities spread

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

2020-02-06 Thread Paul Allen
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 10:01, Volker Schmidt wrote: > Padua, Italy, where I live, has a big university spread all over the > place. This includes smaller sections being in apartments in buildings that > are mainly used residentially. > This is the case with the University of Edinburgh. Well, it

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

2020-02-06 Thread Volker Schmidt
Padua, Italy, where I live, has a big university spread all over the place. This includes smaller sections being in apartments in buildings that are mainly used residentially. With other words "pieces" of the University come in all sizes and shapes, from what would be a typical campus to single apa

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

2020-02-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Do., 6. Feb. 2020 um 10:16 Uhr schrieb Lionel Giard < lionel.gi...@gmail.com>: > One problem with multipolygon relation is that by definition you can't put > *node > *it those and you can't put *contiguous buildings* either. How do you > group "node + polygons + multipolygon" (some buildings a

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

2020-02-06 Thread Lionel Giard
One problem with multipolygon relation is that by definition you can't put *node *it those and you can't put *contiguous buildings* either. How do you group "node + polygons + multipolygon" (some buildings are a multipolygon already where the hole is not part of the university ^_^) with other thing

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

2020-02-05 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
> ... put the tag "amenity=university" and all the information only 1 time for > the whole university > I would generally just use a multipolygon relation for this +1 for the common multipolygon relation, not type=site. ___ Tagging mailing list Taggin

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

2020-02-05 Thread Jmapb
On 2/5/2020 6:21 PM, Lionel Giard wrote: Site relation are more used to put the tag "amenity=university" and all the information only 1 time for the whole university when it is spread across a city or multiple sites. This site relation equal to the amenity=university area under a campus that's al

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

2020-02-05 Thread Jmapb
On 2/5/2020 4:36 AM, Lionel Giard wrote: Thus, it seems difficult to find "one" subdivision that will always work worldwide ?! :-) Maybe that we should keep a generic word and allow everything in it (like subdivision=* with the name of "School", "Institute", "College",... if relevant) ? I agre

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

2020-02-05 Thread Lionel Giard
Site relation are more used to put the tag "amenity=university" and all the information only 1 time for the whole university when it is spread across a city or multiple sites. This site relation equal to the amenity=university area under a campus that's all grouped into one place. Otherwise, if you

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

2020-02-05 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
You also have the problem of different Schools sharing the same building. With the Uni I'm familiar with, in one case you have the Clinical Sciences building 1, which holds 3 lecture theatres, plus the School of Nursing & the School of Pharmacy. It's currently mapped as "G16 - Clinical Science 1"

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

2020-02-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 5 feb 2020, alle ore 11:53, Volker Schmidt ha > scritto: > > I have not looked into this in detail, but this seems to me a strong case for > site relations. I don’t see how site relations would solve the different levels of structure in different countries/un

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

2020-02-05 Thread Volker Schmidt
Apart from technicalities, there is another problem. Universities in different countries are subdivide in dìfferent ways: faculties, departments, institutes, colleges. Except for campus-type universities they are often distributed over an entire city. I have not looked into this in detail, but this

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

2020-02-05 Thread Lionel Giard
Each country (and maybe university) have different subdivision, and sometimes even inside one university there are multiple different subdivision co-existing : for example in Belgium i know at least a few universities that use two separate division at the same time : - for the education part :

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

2020-02-04 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Tue, 4 Feb 2020 at 11:44, Greg Troxel wrote: > Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging writes: > > Universities may have faculties, that often deserved to be mapped > > separately. > > ... > > It seems to me that amenity=faculty would be useful. > > Perhaps, but beware that in US English, this is bizar

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

2020-02-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Di., 4. Feb. 2020 um 17:45 Uhr schrieb Greg Troxel : > Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging writes: > > > Universities may have faculties, that often deserved to be mapped > separately. > +1, I agree with this. Also institutes, departments, and whatever subdivision there may be which can be associa

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

2020-02-04 Thread Paul Allen
On Tue, 4 Feb 2020 at 16:45, Greg Troxel wrote: Perhaps, but beware that in US English, this is bizarre usage. Faculty > refers to the set of people that are professors, not a place, and not a > subdivision of a university. > But in British English it more normally refers to a division of a uni

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

2020-02-04 Thread Sebastian Martin Dicke
Some chairs of faculties have separate locations, too. Regards Sebastian ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

2020-02-04 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
4 Feb 2020, 17:30 by p...@trigpoint.me.uk: > On Tuesday, 4 February 2020, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: > >> Universities may have faculties, that often deserved to be mapped separately. >> >> For example university may take a large area, possibly disjointed area >> across the city >> b

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

2020-02-04 Thread Greg Troxel
Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging writes: > Universities may have faculties, that often deserved to be mapped separately. > > For example university may take a large area, possibly disjointed area across > the city > but Faculty of dentistry, Faculty of forestry, Faculty of mathematics etc may > be

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

2020-02-04 Thread Paul Allen
On Tue, 4 Feb 2020 at 16:31, Philip Barnes wrote: > On Tuesday, 4 February 2020, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: > > > It seems to me that amenity=faculty would be useful. > > > Or university=faculty and keep the amenity tag for the overall university, > on the relation if it multi-site. >

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

2020-02-04 Thread Dave F via Tagging
On 04/02/2020 16:03, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Universities may have faculties, that often deserved to be mapped separately. For example university may take a large area, possibly disjointed area across the city but Faculty of dentistry, Faculty of forestry, Faculty of mathematics

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

2020-02-04 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tuesday, 4 February 2020, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: > Universities may have faculties, that often deserved to be mapped separately. > > For example university may take a large area, possibly disjointed area across > the city > but Faculty of dentistry, Faculty of forestry, Faculty o

[Tagging] amenity=faculty?

2020-02-04 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Universities may have faculties, that often deserved to be mapped separately. For example university may take a large area, possibly disjointed area across the city but Faculty of dentistry, Faculty of forestry, Faculty of mathematics etc may be possible to be mapped as an area/node. Currently t