Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

2014-04-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-04-03 3:39 GMT+02:00 Dave Swarthout daveswarth...@gmail.com: It's difficult to come up with a scheme that handles all the possibilities especially if you consider the reality that most tag information will never show up on a standard map. well, you won't get them on a paper map most

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

2014-04-02 Thread Nico Rikken
My apologies in advance if I break convention or code, but I just recently started mapping and even more recently joined the mailing list. As a mountaineer I was very intrigued by the hut discussion and wanted to share some of my knowledge on this area. I will however definitely exceed the initial

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

2014-04-02 Thread Janko Mihelić
It's great to have new people enthusiastic about tagging. A good side of already existing tags (alpine_hut, shelter..) is that a mapper not very experianced in mountaineering can tag them easily without reading 3 pages of text. Also, non-specialized renderers don't have to think too much about

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

2014-04-02 Thread Dave Swarthout
Nico said, As a mountaineer I was very intrigued by the hut discussion and wanted to share some of my knowledge on this area. I will however definitely exceed the initial question in this message, since I'm more interested in the differentiation between the tags. Actually, the reason I started

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

2014-04-01 Thread Steve Doerr
On 01/04/2014 02:01, Dave Swarthout wrote: Fly mentioned shelter_type just now — another type of wilderness accommodation is a basic shelter called a lean-to, a rough three sided, roofed shelter, open to the elements on one side. That's an odd use of the word 'lean-to'. Yes, a lean-to is a

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

2014-04-01 Thread Dave Swarthout
In the old days when the term was first brought into use in the Adirondack Mountains, it was just that, a bunch of spruce branches leaning against a tree. At any rate, they are common features in the eastern American wilderness regions. See this link about lean-tos on the Appalachian Trail

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

2014-04-01 Thread Rene Maroufi
On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 08:01:01AM +0700, Dave Swarthout wrote: I think a link to shelter:type would be a good addition to the Map Features; Tourism page for further choices when tagging wilderness shelters. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:shelter_type. Note that this page throws more

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

2014-04-01 Thread Dudley Ibbett
that it would be useful to map is the emergency shelter. It is always good to know where these are, just in case! Regards Dudley Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 12:13:44 +0200 From: dieterdre...@gmail.com To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts 2014-04-01 4:20 GMT+02:00 fly

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

2014-03-31 Thread fly
Well, what is the difference between a mountain, alpine or wilderness hut ? Think much more important than the name and its surrounding are the available facilities, capacity and equipment. Rather than splitting the types by name I would prefer to get information about how useful the hut is for

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

2014-03-31 Thread Dave Swarthout
Yes, thanks Martin, I forgot to Reply to All I'm glad to hear your explanation. What was possibly meant was a place to have fire and not our American formal fireplace. The cabins I'm familiar with have a small wood stove, which is a metal box with a tight fitting door and air vents to control

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

2014-03-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-03-31 18:18 GMT+02:00 Dave Swarthout daveswarth...@gmail.com: @fly What is the difference between a mountain, alpine, or wilderness hut is exactly what I'm trying to determine. Mountain_hut is not used much — only 7 instances — so I think it can safely be considered to be the same as

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

2014-03-31 Thread fly
On 31.03.2014 18:49, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2014-03-31 18:18 GMT+02:00 Dave Swarthout daveswarth...@gmail.com mailto:daveswarth...@gmail.com: @fly What is the difference between a mountain, alpine, or wilderness hut is exactly what I'm trying to determine.

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

2014-03-31 Thread Dave Swarthout
So, an alpine_hut is, at least in Europe, an operated place sort of like a guest_house? I don't think we have anything comparable in the U.S. Wikipedia shows several huts of the type I mean here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilderness_hut .Their definition says these are free — that is not the

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

2014-03-31 Thread fly
On 01.04.2014 03:01, Dave Swarthout wrote: So, an alpine_hut is, at least in Europe, an operated place sort of like a guest_house? I don't think we have anything comparable in the U.S. How about this one: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/419229498 ? Wikipedia shows several huts of the type

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

2014-03-31 Thread Yves
There is this site refuges.info that could be used to help defining useful tags at least for France. On 1 avril 2014 04:20:08 UTC+02:00, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com wrote: On 01.04.2014 03:01, Dave Swarthout wrote: So, an alpine_hut is, at least in Europe, an operated place sort of like a