Re: Stored procedure (RFI proposal)

2003-07-14 Thread Rick Ross
I agree with Mr. Smith that dumping a working tool because it doesn't fit the current (albeit valid) programming model. I personally would have replace (steal) the sql: tags if they were abandoned because I am happily banging away on a flat two tiered model. All of my pages that derive from the

Re: Stored procedure (RFI proposal)

2003-07-14 Thread James Mitchell
On Monday 14 July 2003 06:01, Martin van Dijken wrote: > Agreed, > > I think it a horrific thing to do data manipulation in a JSP tag in the > first place. Personally I think the whole SQL-taglib is something that > never should have been invented in the first place. I used to agree with that stat

Re: Stored procedure (RFI proposal)

2003-07-14 Thread James Smith
I would also like to chime in with my agreement with Henri, Tim, and Michael. Within the proper context, the tag but you're beating me to the punch. Thanks! James - Original Message - From: "Michael Duffy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tag Libraries Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Mon

RE: Stored procedure (RFI proposal)

2003-07-14 Thread Michael Duffy
I agree with Henri and Tim. Rather than seeing dogmatic rules about "never" and "always", I prefer to hear the reasons for doing things and some guidance on when it might be acceptable to break with convention AND what the consequences of doing that could be. I do believe that Model-2 MVC is a

RE: Stored procedure (RFI proposal)

2003-07-14 Thread Henri Yandell
I do exactly the same thing [though I have multiple JSP controllers]. You still maintain good MVC, without the assumption that Model-2 is some kind of gospel we must believe in. I used the sql-taglib of the JSTL and it worked relatively well. Some issues with choosing DataSources dynamically. He

RE: Stored procedure (RFI proposal)

2003-07-14 Thread Chen, Gin
One instance it makes sense is if you use a JSP for your controller. A JSP compiles into a Servlet anyways so sometimes it makes it easier to write a JSP that is nothing more than controller functionality (no display) then to write and configure a Servlet. I know that the SQL taglib saved me HUGE

RE: Is there a way for sorting a table in jstl?

2003-07-14 Thread Yansheng Lin
Cool. Thanks! -Original Message- From: Vic Cekvenich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 11, 2003 5:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is there a way for sorting a table in jstl? Display tag (it works with grids) is very popular, open source on sf.net. It has sorting, etc. and a

RE: Stored procedure (RFI proposal)

2003-07-14 Thread Martin van Dijken
Agreed, I think it a horrific thing to do data manipulation in a JSP tag in the first place. Personally I think the whole SQL-taglib is something that never should have been invented in the first place. Martin > -Original Message- > From: Vic Cekvenich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: