Re: [Tails-dev] MFSA 2015-78 (aka. CVE-2015-4495) vs. Tails

2015-08-08 Thread intrigeri
Romeo Papa wrote (08 Aug 2015 11:04:32 GMT) : > Do you want me to try and write a quick patch that would disable PDF.js > by default? It's too late to fix 1.5~rc1, and 1.5 won't be affected, so: what for, exactly? (Thanks for the offer anyway :) Cheers, -- intrigeri

Re: [Tails-dev] MFSA 2015-78 (aka. CVE-2015-4495) vs. Tails

2015-08-08 Thread Romeo Papa
Hi, Do you want me to try and write a quick patch that would disable PDF.js by default? On 08/08/2015 11:19 AM, intrigeri wrote: > Romeo Papa, do you want to research this further? It would be very > useful to add a mitigation measure when mentioning this security issue > in the "Known issues" se

Re: [Tails-dev] MFSA 2015-78 (aka. CVE-2015-4495) vs. Tails

2015-08-08 Thread intrigeri
Hi again, intrigeri wrote (08 Aug 2015 09:24:48 GMT) : > ... on the other hand, https://access.redhat.com/articles/1563163 > documents pdfjs.disabled=True as a mitigation. I trust RedHat security > team to have verified that it indeed blocks exploitation. I've documented the security hole + mitig

Re: [Tails-dev] MFSA 2015-78 (aka. CVE-2015-4495) vs. Tails

2015-08-08 Thread intrigeri
intrigeri wrote (08 Aug 2015 09:19:50 GMT) : > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1179262#c30 reads: > "Notice that "pdfjs.disabled" shall not be used, at least without > switching the handler." Not sure how one would "switch the handler", > and perhaps it doesn't mean what I think anyway

Re: [Tails-dev] MFSA 2015-78 (aka. CVE-2015-4495) vs. Tails

2015-08-08 Thread intrigeri
Romeo Papa wrote (07 Aug 2015 23:04:15 GMT) : > PDF.js can be disabled as follows: > 1. Type about:config in the Firefox address bar > 2. Search for the pdfjs.disabled entry > 3. Set the pdfjs.disabled entry to True https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1179262#c30 reads: "Noti

Re: [Tails-dev] MFSA 2015-78 (aka. CVE-2015-4495) vs. Tails

2015-08-07 Thread Romeo Papa
On 08/07/2015 02:13 PM, Georg Koppen wrote: > "we determined that the vulnerability isn't present in the current 31 > ESR." > > That's a quote from Liz Henry, the Firefox release manager. > > Georg FYI, here's the quote's source: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1179262#c33 __

Re: [Tails-dev] MFSA 2015-78 (aka. CVE-2015-4495) vs. Tails

2015-08-07 Thread Romeo Papa
PS: Sorry about all the messages I'm apparently sending while writing up the message I need to see what's happening... After reading further, I've found the debian page saying only 38.1.0esr-3 is vulnerable (https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2015-4495). But I've also found the origi

Re: [Tails-dev] MFSA 2015-78 (aka. CVE-2015-4495) vs. Tails

2015-08-07 Thread Nicolas Vigier
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015, Romeo Papa wrote: > On 08/07/2015 02:33 PM, Jacob Appelbaum wrote:> By the exploit, as I > understood things? I could be mistaken and > > probably am mistaken. I've heard that the vulnerable code is in FF31 - > > I haven't looked myself yet. > > https://access.redhat.com/arti

Re: [Tails-dev] MFSA 2015-78 (aka. CVE-2015-4495) vs. Tails

2015-08-07 Thread Romeo Papa
On 08/07/2015 02:33 PM, Jacob Appelbaum wrote:> By the exploit, as I understood things? I could be mistaken and > probably am mistaken. I've heard that the vulnerable code is in FF31 - > I haven't looked myself yet. https://access.redhat.com/articles/1563163 Considering "all Red Hat products that

Re: [Tails-dev] MFSA 2015-78 (aka. CVE-2015-4495) vs. Tails

2015-08-07 Thread intrigeri
kytv wrote (07 Aug 2015 14:13:19 GMT) : > Note that Tails 1.5~rc1 includes version 5.0a4-build3 of the Tor > Browser. Anyone up to propose a patch to the call for testing, that warns users about it, please let me know (before I start working on it, likely tomorrow — let's avoid duplicating work).

Re: [Tails-dev] MFSA 2015-78 (aka. CVE-2015-4495) vs. Tails

2015-08-07 Thread kytv
On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 01:48:10PM +, Georg Koppen wrote: > Jacob Appelbaum: > > > > The current Tails Tor Browser is 4.5.3 (based on Mozilla Firefox > > 31.8.0) - so the new alpha won't change anything and the current > > browser shouldn't be impacted by it. > > > > Did I understand that cor

Re: [Tails-dev] MFSA 2015-78 (aka. CVE-2015-4495) vs. Tails

2015-08-07 Thread Georg Koppen
Jacob Appelbaum: > On 8/7/15, Georg Koppen wrote: >> Jacob Appelbaum: >>> On 8/7/15, jvoisin wrote: Hello, I disagree with your analysis; while the Apparmor profile (♥) will prevent tragic things like gpg key stealing, please keep in mind that an attacker can access every

Re: [Tails-dev] MFSA 2015-78 (aka. CVE-2015-4495) vs. Tails

2015-08-07 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
On 8/7/15, Georg Koppen wrote: > Jacob Appelbaum: >> On 8/7/15, jvoisin wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I disagree with your analysis; >>> while the Apparmor profile (♥) will prevent tragic things like gpg key >>> stealing, please keep in mind that an attacker can access every Firefox >>> files, like c

Re: [Tails-dev] MFSA 2015-78 (aka. CVE-2015-4495) vs. Tails

2015-08-07 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
On 8/7/15, intrigeri wrote: > Jacob Appelbaum wrote (07 Aug 2015 10:37:25 GMT) : >> I've heard that the exploit in the wild doesn't work against esr31 - I >> haven't heard that it isn't impacted at all. > > Mozilla folks have explicitly written on their "enterprise" list that > FF31 is not affecte

Re: [Tails-dev] MFSA 2015-78 (aka. CVE-2015-4495) vs. Tails

2015-08-07 Thread Georg Koppen
Jacob Appelbaum: > On 8/7/15, jvoisin wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I disagree with your analysis; >> while the Apparmor profile (♥) will prevent tragic things like gpg key >> stealing, please keep in mind that an attacker can access every Firefox >> files, like cookies (stealing sessions), stored passwo

Re: [Tails-dev] MFSA 2015-78 (aka. CVE-2015-4495) vs. Tails

2015-08-07 Thread intrigeri
Jacob Appelbaum wrote (07 Aug 2015 10:37:25 GMT) : > I've heard that the exploit in the wild doesn't work against esr31 - I > haven't heard that it isn't impacted at all. Mozilla folks have explicitly written on their "enterprise" list that FF31 is not affected. > ( I think the apparmor profile m

Re: [Tails-dev] MFSA 2015-78 (aka. CVE-2015-4495) vs. Tails

2015-08-07 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
On 8/7/15, jvoisin wrote: > Hello, > > I disagree with your analysis; > while the Apparmor profile (♥) will prevent tragic things like gpg key > stealing, please keep in mind that an attacker can access every Firefox > files, like cookies (stealing sessions), stored passwords, changing > preferenc

Re: [Tails-dev] MFSA 2015-78 (aka. CVE-2015-4495) vs. Tails

2015-08-07 Thread jvoisin
Hello, I disagree with your analysis; while the Apparmor profile (♥) will prevent tragic things like gpg key stealing, please keep in mind that an attacker can access every Firefox files, like cookies (stealing sessions), stored passwords, changing preferences (remember http://net.ipcalf.com/ ?),

Re: [Tails-dev] MFSA 2015-78 (aka. CVE-2015-4495) vs. Tails

2015-08-07 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
On 8/7/15, intrigeri wrote: > Hi, > > that is: > > https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2015-78/ > https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2015-4495 > > ... apparently only affect Firefox 38.x, so current Tails stable > (1.4.1) is not affected. Most likely Tails 1.5~rc

[Tails-dev] MFSA 2015-78 (aka. CVE-2015-4495) vs. Tails

2015-08-07 Thread intrigeri
Hi, that is: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2015-78/ https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2015-4495 ... apparently only affect Firefox 38.x, so current Tails stable (1.4.1) is not affected. Most likely Tails 1.5~rc1 is affected, but our AppArmor policy shoul