Re: [Tails-dev] Please test incremental upgrades (from 0.22~rc1 to 0.22~rc2)

2013-12-17 Thread intrigeri
Hi, sajol...@pimienta.org wrote (17 Dec 2013 09:25:36 GMT) : > intrigeri: >>> 2. No feedback while looking for upgrade. [...] > Then, see: > https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/6500 Fixed in Tails-IUK 0.12. >>> 3. The "click link" in the dialog messages are unclear. [...] >> Is your current prop

Re: [Tails-dev] Please test incremental upgrades (from 0.22~rc1 to 0.22~rc2)

2013-12-17 Thread intrigeri
sajol...@pimienta.org wrote (17 Dec 2013 09:34:24 GMT) : > intrigeri: >> In any case, I don't see why this is so important, but I see why you >> folks don't share this feeling, as you're missing some background info >> that didn't make it out of my mind to a public document yet: this >> launcher wa

Re: [Tails-dev] Please test incremental upgrades (from 0.22~rc1 to 0.22~rc2)

2013-12-17 Thread sajolida
intrigeri: > In any case, I don't see why this is so important, but I see why you > folks don't share this feeling, as you're missing some background info > that didn't make it out of my mind to a public document yet: this > launcher was only added to make testers' life easier, until > incremental

Re: [Tails-dev] Please test incremental upgrades (from 0.22~rc1 to 0.22~rc2)

2013-12-17 Thread sajolida
intrigeri: >> 1. The menu launcher is called Tails Upgrader. >> While doing for initial brainstorming on the documentation I realize >> that we will still have to document both processes: full upgrade and >> incremental upgrade. They are very different kind of beasts, so the >> differences between

Re: [Tails-dev] Please test incremental upgrades (from 0.22~rc1 to 0.22~rc2)

2013-12-14 Thread intrigeri
Hi, (A meta note I'd like to raise first, so that everyone can understand better my position in this discussion: more than a year ago, this stuff was ready to be tested, was tested, and we've decided what was blocking, and what was not, before we deploy incremental upgrades in production; all this

Re: [Tails-dev] Please test incremental upgrades (from 0.22~rc1 to 0.22~rc2)

2013-12-14 Thread Alan
Hi, > > 2. No feedback while looking for upgrade. > > When the menu launcher is first started it takes several seconds > > before having any visual feedback. This can be really confusing. > > How hard would it be to display a spinner or something? That looks > > pretty important to me. > > I have

Re: [Tails-dev] Please test incremental upgrades (from 0.22~rc1 to 0.22~rc2)

2013-12-12 Thread intrigeri
Andreas Kuckartz wrote (12 Dec 2013 20:10:14 GMT) : > intrigeri: >> Most ETA's I see displayed are seriously wrong, so I'm not convinced >> it generally helps at all UX-wise. Is it really considered as a best >> practice these days to display an ETA along with progress bars for >> long operations?

Re: [Tails-dev] Please test incremental upgrades (from 0.22~rc1 to 0.22~rc2)

2013-12-12 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
intrigeri: > Most ETA's I see displayed are seriously wrong, so I'm not convinced > it generally helps at all UX-wise. Is it really considered as a best > practice these days to display an ETA along with progress bars for > long operations? When I am downloading large files (such as Tails binaries

Re: [Tails-dev] Please test incremental upgrades (from 0.22~rc1 to 0.22~rc2)

2013-12-12 Thread intrigeri
Hi, sajol...@pimienta.org wrote (12 Dec 2013 11:02:57 GMT) : > Finally, I managed to run this all the way without trouble. So first of > all I have to say that the mechanism worked like a charm. Congrats! Thank you for testing. > Nonetheless, I identified many user-interface issues. Most of them

Re: [Tails-dev] Please test incremental upgrades (from 0.22~rc1 to 0.22~rc2)

2013-12-12 Thread sajolida
intrigeri: > now is the time to test this stuff live and detect remaining issues > before we enable it by default for all Tails users; here's how: > > https://tails.boum.org/news/test_incremental_upgrades/ > > I promise there will be another incremental upgrade from 0.22~rc2 to > 0.22, so if th

[Tails-dev] Please test incremental upgrades (from 0.22~rc1 to 0.22~rc2)

2013-12-08 Thread intrigeri
Hi, now is the time to test this stuff live and detect remaining issues before we enable it by default for all Tails users; here's how: https://tails.boum.org/news/test_incremental_upgrades/ I promise there will be another incremental upgrade from 0.22~rc2 to 0.22, so if this works for you, th