[GTALUG] The truth is paywalled (was Re: Looks like IBM is planning to eliminate RHEL)

2020-08-06 Thread Evan Leibovitch via talk
As someone much smarter than me recently wrote, "The Truth is Paywalled but > the Lies are Free". > > Stewart > I call absolute bullshit on this assertion, which I have seen in meme form at a number of locations. It's provably wrong. Most of the objectively least-biased and most trustworthy

Re: [GTALUG] Looks like IBM is planning to eliminate RHEL

2020-08-06 Thread Russell Reiter via talk
On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 4:56 PM Stewart Russell via talk wrote: > > ... The truth and reconciliation movement in Canada, > > by stating there is systematic racism in this country ... > > But there is systemic and horrific racism in this country. I'm sure many > of us here were affected by "No

Re: [GTALUG] Looks like IBM is planning to eliminate RHEL

2020-08-06 Thread Stewart Russell via talk
> ... The truth and reconciliation movement in Canada, > by stating there is systematic racism in this country ... But there is systemic and horrific racism in this country. I'm sure many of us here were affected by "No Canadian Experience" hiring policies. Just because a website espouses

Re: [GTALUG] Fwd: Looks like IBM is planning to eliminate RHEL

2020-08-06 Thread Russell Reiter via talk
On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 1:42 PM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > I hate top-posting. But I'm doing it to make things clearer. > > This is exactly what I got, and I find it very confusing. > > At least in my MUA (alpine) it looks as if the last block of text (which I > know was written by

Re: [GTALUG] Fwd: Looks like IBM is planning to eliminate RHEL

2020-08-06 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
I hate top-posting. But I'm doing it to make things clearer. This is exactly what I got, and I find it very confusing. At least in my MUA (alpine) it looks as if the last block of text (which I know was written by Evan) is presented as original to Russell. I'm sure that this isn't Russell's

[GTALUG] Fwd: Looks like IBM is planning to eliminate RHEL

2020-08-06 Thread Russell Reiter via talk
Sorry but it would be helpful if offlist responses were labeled and trimmed post's were noted, just for the sake of lessing confustion, if anything else. For some reson my MTA missed a response post to the list and this one is not labeled offlist, that part is kind of an informal protocol as I

Re: [GTALUG] Looks like IBM is planning to eliminate RHEL

2020-08-06 Thread Russell Reiter via talk
On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 11:51 AM Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: > On Thu, 6 Aug 2020 at 10:31, Alvin Starr wrote: > >> I do not believe that The Rules of Acquisition existed before DS-9. >> But they nicely reflect the business practices over the last 50, 60,70... >> 100 years. >> With the

Re: [GTALUG] Looks like IBM is planning to eliminate RHEL

2020-08-06 Thread Evan Leibovitch via talk
On Thu, 6 Aug 2020 at 10:31, Alvin Starr wrote: > I do not believe that The Rules of Acquisition existed before DS-9. > But they nicely reflect the business practices over the last 50, 60,70... > 100 years. > With the "Greed is Good" concept it has become a bit more out in the open > > Someone

[GTALUG] Fwd: Looks like IBM is planning to eliminate RHEL

2020-08-06 Thread Russell Reiter via talk
On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 9:44 AM Evan Leibovitch wrote: > I've spoken to some actual Red Hat employees who they said the article has > been widely circulated and has served as a good laugh. No booms are being > lowered that they're aware of and morale remains decent. > > I'm wary of the source

Re: [GTALUG] Looks like IBM is planning to eliminate RHEL

2020-08-06 Thread Alvin Starr via talk
On 8/6/20 9:56 AM, Evan Leibovitch wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2020 at 09:52, Alvin Starr via talk > wrote: Business policies most often make sense when looked at through the lens of  "The Rules of Acquisiion". If you don't have "The lobes for profit" then you will

Re: [GTALUG] Looks like IBM is planning to eliminate RHEL

2020-08-06 Thread Evan Leibovitch via talk
On Thu, 6 Aug 2020 at 09:52, Alvin Starr via talk wrote: > Business policies most often make sense when looked at through the lens > of "The Rules of Acquisition". > If you don't have "The lobes for profit" then you will likely see > conspiracies behind every decision. > Did that concept

Re: [GTALUG] Looks like IBM is planning to eliminate RHEL

2020-08-06 Thread Alvin Starr via talk
Business policies most often make sense when looked at through the lens of  "The Rules of Acquisition". If you don't have "The lobes for profit" then you will likely see conspiracies behind every decision. On 8/6/20 9:43 AM, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: I've spoken to some actual Red Hat

Re: [GTALUG] Looks like IBM is planning to eliminate RHEL

2020-08-06 Thread Evan Leibovitch via talk
I've spoken to some actual Red Hat employees who they said the article has been widely circulated and has served as a good laugh. No booms are being lowered that they're aware of and morale remains decent. I'm wary of the source based on Dr. Ray's previous articles.He's obsessed with Microsoft

Re: [GTALUG] Looks like IBM is planning to eliminate RHEL

2020-08-06 Thread Russell Reiter via talk
On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 9:52 PM Sergio Durigan Junior via talk < talk@gtalug.org> wrote: > On Wednesday, August 05 2020, Russell Reiter via talk wrote: > > > This is sad. But the article is an interesting backgrounder on the > internal > > chaos thats leading up to this. > > > > "They said that OS