Re: [GTALUG] Has the graphics-card world gone mad?

2021-04-07 Thread Evan Leibovitch via talk
On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 at 16:25, James Knott via talk wrote: Life may be good, but LG products aren't. I've had a monitor and cell > phone made by them. I wasn't happy with either. > It seems like LG heard our

Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

2021-04-07 Thread Nicholas Krause via talk
On 4/7/21 5:44 PM, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: On Wed, Apr 07, 2021 at 11:21:52AM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: When I was an undergrad at University of Waterloo, we were required to use FORTRAN (WatFiv). I hated it. I liked the notation of Algol better and Algol-W (W for

Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

2021-04-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Apr 07, 2021 at 11:21:52AM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > When I was an undergrad at University of Waterloo, we were required to > use FORTRAN (WatFiv). I hated it. I liked the notation of Algol > better and Algol-W (W for Wirth) was a good implementation for student > uses.

Re: [GTALUG] RMS on britannica.com

2021-04-07 Thread Karen Lewellen via talk
Stewart is absolutely correct. Making this online reference far from a suitable means of clearing up anything regarding rMS as a person. Kare On Wed, 7 Apr 2021, Stewart Russell via talk wrote: On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 10:21, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: The article seems to be

Re: [GTALUG] Cert Advisory FortiOS APT

2021-04-07 Thread Russell Reiter via talk
On Wed, Apr 7, 2021, 10:03 AM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk, wrote: > | From: Russell Reiter via talk > | > | The advisory says even if your org doesn't use the os you should apply > | mitigations. > | > | >

Re: [GTALUG] RMS on britannica.com

2021-04-07 Thread Stewart Russell via talk
On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 10:21, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > > The article seems to be mostly limited to non-controversial and positive > things. It seems to be written very sympathetically. That's probably > appropriate. > Britannica doesn't really rank as a quality reference work. It

Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

2021-04-07 Thread Russell Reiter via talk
On Wed, Apr 7, 2021, 2:11 PM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk, wrote: > | From: Evan Leibovitch via talk > > | Since copyright terms exist for many years after the creator's death, > that > | fact is far less relevant than one might think. > > Absolutely correct. I was trying to be funny,

Re: [GTALUG] RMS on britannica.com

2021-04-07 Thread Russell Reiter via talk
On Wed, Apr 7, 2021, 10:21 AM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk, wrote: > | From: Russell Reiter via talk > | > | I stumbled across this. I think it's concise and well written. Cuts > through > | the fud pretty well. > | > | https://www.britannica.com/biography/Richard-Stallman > > I don't know

Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

2021-04-07 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Evan Leibovitch via talk | Since copyright terms exist for many years after the creator's death, that | fact is far less relevant than one might think. Absolutely correct. I was trying to be funny, responding literally to what was said. The work is now in the public domain since

Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

2021-04-07 Thread Evan Leibovitch via talk
On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 10:42, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > | I'm not sure that Brendan Behan would object to the Toronto Irish Players > | copying the script of Borstal Boy to introduce it to the citizens of > | Toronto, but I might be wrong about that as well. > > Since he is dead, you

Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

2021-04-07 Thread Howard Gibson via talk
On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 10:41:22 -0400 (EDT) "D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk" wrote: > The copyright law is quite draconian. People violate it on a regular > basis (well documented in many articles). That's the only way it > becomes bearable. Hugh, Here is a nice article from Web Pages that

Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

2021-04-07 Thread James Knott via talk
On 2021-04-07 11:21 a.m., D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: When I was an undergrad at University of Waterloo, we were required to use FORTRAN (WatFiv). I hated it. I got that at Ryerson.  Back then, I used to do my homework on a VAX 11/780. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org

Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

2021-04-07 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Lennart Sorensen via talk | Many languages (probably most of them) prevent many of the bugs C makes | easy to create. Many of them are better than java. When I was an undergrad at University of Waterloo, we were required to use FORTRAN (WatFiv). I hated it. I liked the notation of

Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

2021-04-07 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Russell Reiter via talk | I may be wrong. I was a member of an amature theatre group, we photocopied | the stuff anyway. I think it was one of the teachers in that heritage group | who put it that way to me, as a cultural right. I'm pretty sure that that's wishful thinking.

Re: [GTALUG] RMS on britannica.com

2021-04-07 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Russell Reiter via talk | | I stumbled across this. I think it's concise and well written. Cuts through | the fud pretty well. | | https://www.britannica.com/biography/Richard-Stallman I don't know exactly what you are referring to as "FUD" (fear, uncertainty, and doubt). The article

Re: [GTALUG] Google wins over Oracle in Java API copyright suit

2021-04-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Apr 06, 2021 at 06:10:25PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > I wasn't there, but... > > Background: > > I think Sun was a great proponent of open standards. They won for a long > time by introducing new ones and always being a step ahead of the other > workstation and server