Re: [GTALUG] Boot setup issues

2018-09-17 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 03:32:11PM -0500, o1bigtenor wrote: > OK - - - good to know. For many years it was /boot, / (or /root), > /usr, /var, /tmp, > swap, /usr/local and /home. I've had enough issues because / was too small, > ditto for /usr. > So on a new system I can drop /boot and only add

Re: [GTALUG] Boot setup issues

2018-09-16 Thread o1bigtenor via talk
On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 12:10 AM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > | From: o1bigtenor via talk > > Note: I am only an amateur sysadmin. And I am not even that good - - - grin but i'se a learning that too! > > | One of my linux mentors, who calls himself a linux dinosaur (started on > | a

Re: [GTALUG] Boot setup issues

2018-09-15 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: o1bigtenor via talk Note: I am only an amateur sysadmin. | One of my linux mentors, who calls himself a linux dinosaur (started on | a System V on a pc) Picky picky: System V isn't Linux. It's UNIX. I first used UNIX seriously with 4th or 5th Edition in 1975. But I first became

Re: [GTALUG] Boot setup issues

2018-09-15 Thread o1bigtenor via talk
On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 11:10 PM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > TL;DR: lots of history, some explanation of why things are done certain > ways. > > | From: o1bigtenor via talk > > | OK - - - good to know. For many years it was > | /boot, > > Covered well by Lennart. > > This first came up

Re: [GTALUG] Boot setup issues

2018-09-14 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
TL;DR: lots of history, some explanation of why things are done certain ways. | From: o1bigtenor via talk | OK - - - good to know. For many years it was | /boot, Covered well by Lennart. This first came up for me with UNIX System V release 2 on a PC. The boot loader only understood a a

Re: [GTALUG] Boot setup issues

2018-09-14 Thread o1bigtenor via talk
On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 3:06 PM, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: > On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 02:53:06PM +, D. Joe via talk wrote: >> To the best of my understanding, these tools are built with the assumption >> that one wants to run just the OS that invokes them. >> >> Although the Debian

Re: [GTALUG] Boot setup issues

2018-09-14 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 02:53:06PM +, D. Joe via talk wrote: > To the best of my understanding, these tools are built with the assumption > that one wants to run just the OS that invokes them. > > Although the Debian wiki has some hints > > https://wiki.debian.org/Grub > > this seems to be

Re: [GTALUG] Boot setup issues

2018-09-14 Thread Jamon Camisso via talk
On 14/09/18 10:22, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > So I've installed both of these systems (more than once each) they > have their own partitions for everything but boot and efi yet I'm only > seeing one system available on grub (depending upon the last install > as to which). So I'm doing something

Re: [GTALUG] Boot setup issues

2018-09-14 Thread Don Tai via talk
On a test machine I had installed Debian Enlightenment. first, and then Manjaro second. Manjaro screwed up the booting. I repeatedly used the Ubuntu Boot Repair disk to get me unstuck. The Boot Repair disk is Linux agnostic. Don On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 at 12:24, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > On

Re: [GTALUG] Boot setup issues

2018-09-14 Thread o1bigtenor via talk
On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 9:53 AM, D. Joe via talk wrote: > On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 09:22:20AM -0500, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: >> Greetings >> >> I want to have two different copies of debian on one box with the >> choice of which when I boot in. > > [...] > >> So I've installed both of these

Re: [GTALUG] Boot setup issues

2018-09-14 Thread D. Joe via talk
On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 09:22:20AM -0500, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > Greetings > > I want to have two different copies of debian on one box with the > choice of which when I boot in. [...] > So I've installed both of these systems (more than once each) they > have their own partitions for

Re: [GTALUG] Boot setup issues

2018-09-14 Thread Don Tai via talk
Have you tried the Ubuntu Boot Repair disk? That usually works for me. On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 at 10:22, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > Greetings > > I have had it working before but I can't seem to get things right this > time. > > I want to have two different copies of debian on one box with the >

[GTALUG] Boot setup issues

2018-09-14 Thread o1bigtenor via talk
Greetings I have had it working before but I can't seem to get things right this time. I want to have two different copies of debian on one box with the choice of which when I boot in. Wanting to have available both debian stable (9.5 at present) and debian testing (10). This is so I can