The OS has python needs and your app has its own. It's usually best to keep
those things independent to avoid dependency conflicts. Using something
like virtualenv or pyenv to create a separate python environment and then
using the pip in it to install dependencies works well.
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On Wed, Nov 09, 2022 at 12:04:44PM -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:
> If I had to guess, Evan's problem (the one that started this thread) stems
> from a software package that hasn't been updated in some time and no
> longer matches what the distro provides.
>
> Packages bit-rot. One
| From: Lennart Sorensen via talk
| Well as far as I can tell every major linux distribution has got it right,
| and the issue mainly seems to happen on windows where apparently people
| can't get anything right.
If I had to guess, Evan's problem (the one that started this thread) stems
from a
On Tue, Nov 08, 2022 at 02:24:03PM -0500, Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote:
> That's the problem: no other language has tried to do the rule-from-above
> thing. And they are guidelines, right, so they're optional?
>
> I think you might have a lifetime to spend explaining that at just about
>
On 07/11/2022 20.14, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
Well anything that follows the guidelines from python upstream would
know that python is never python3.
That's the problem: no other language has tried to do the
rule-from-above thing. And they are guidelines, right, so they're optional?
python
On Mon, Nov 07, 2022 at 02:53:55PM -0500, Stewart Russell via talk wrote:
> You bet! I think it will continue for some time.
>
> I *think* that systems are only supposed to provide an executable called
> "python3" now, but de facto, the executable "python" seems to be a
> free-for-all. I only
On Sun, Nov 06, 2022 at 11:59:21PM -0500, Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote:
> Did you accidentally install "python-is-python2"? It will break modern
> things in a hilarious manner.
>
> There's python-is-python3 to undo the damage.
Well anything that follows the guidelines from python upstream
> On Nov 7, 2022, at 16:21, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
> (Now what do I do with all this cruft in ~/.local and ~/.cache?)
Depends upon what it is. It could be python modules, Firefox cache files, bits
and bobs from zsh accessories, nvim swap files, who knows. That’s the joy of
the XDG Base
Hi Seneca,
So... I reinstalled all of the Ubuntu Python module packages you mentioned,
without much progress until I reinstalled python3-attr.
Then the errors and messages reduced but I could see other things missing.
Re-installing python3-babelfish and python-automat have reduced the error
On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 10:42 AM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
wrote:
> I get almost all my software from my distro (Fedora Linux). But there are
> reasons
> to get things through Python's "pip". Surely these two sources clash.
>
I'm almost certain that this is at least a partial source of my
On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 10:41 AM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
wrote:
> Wow. The Python2 -> Python3 transition is still claiming victims!
>
You bet! I think it will continue for some time.
I *think* that systems are only supposed to provide an executable called
"python3" now, but de facto, the
On Nov 6, 2022, at 21:14, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote:
>
> Ubuntu server 22.04 LTS
But did you install all your packages and dependencies through normal Ubuntu
packages? The paths in the “deluged” traceback suggest that not all of them
were, but that’s going on my old understanding that
| From: Stewart C. Russell via talk
| Did you accidentally install "python-is-python2"? It will break modern things
| in a hilarious manner.
|
| There's python-is-python3 to undo the damage.
Wow. The Python2 -> Python3 transition is still claiming victims!
I am not sold on containers, but it
Thanks, but didn't help.
Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada
@evanleibovitch / @el56
On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 12:00 AM Stewart C. Russell via talk
wrote:
> On 06/11/2022 21.14, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote:
>
>
> I must have done something really wrong when an app I was trying to
> install a few
On 06/11/2022 21.14, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote:
I must have done something really wrong when an app I was trying to
install a few days ago insisted on running on Python 2.
Did you accidentally install "python-is-python2"? It will break modern
things in a hilarious manner.
There's
Ubuntu server 22.04 LTS
I must have done something really wrong when an app I was trying to install
a few days ago insisted on running on Python 2. I installed some stuff
(don´t recall what) that made it work, but it appears to have broken the
other Python three apps that I have been using on the
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