Re: [nyphp-talk] unbelievable

2007-01-30 Thread tedd
At 7:28 PM -0500 1/30/07, Paul wrote: Right now there are 20 plus applicants from 3rd world nations with experience applying. Welcome to the new world order. Do you here the sucking sound Ross. I think most here would be surprised at what some programmers will work for. As for myself, ther

Re: [nyphp-talk] unbelievable

2007-01-30 Thread Anirudh Zala
On Wednesday 31 January 2007 05:20, michael wrote: > http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/sad/270790501.html > > Candidates must have strong knowledge of Perl, PHP, HTML, XML, > JavaScript, CGI, Apache, MySQL, using standard, team-based web > development practices. > > Sa

Re: [nyphp-talk] unbelievable

2007-01-30 Thread edward potter
I think the Google juggernaut seems to be a compelling factor. They're investing very heavy in the whole python craze - I figure they know what's hot or not, they have a zillion PhD's in CompSci roaming the halls there, and it's kinda of a fun language to play with too. I pretty much have php un

Re: [nyphp-talk] PHP addition and leading zeros

2007-01-30 Thread Ken Robinson
At 11:23 PM 1/30/2007, Aaron Fischer wrote: I am retrieving a four digit value from a mysql db. It is an unsigned zerofill field so there are leading zeros. I add 0001 to the value. However, I find that I lose my leading zeros, which I want to keep. I also tried incrementing the value but tha

[nyphp-talk] PHP addition and leading zeros

2007-01-30 Thread Aaron Fischer
I am retrieving a four digit value from a mysql db. It is an unsigned zerofill field so there are leading zeros. I add 0001 to the value. However, I find that I lose my leading zeros, which I want to keep. I also tried incrementing the value but that produces the same result. Any sugge

Re: [nyphp-talk] unbelievable

2007-01-30 Thread CED
lol, sorry scratch my last post, my spam bot ate the other corres. ;) I highly recommend getting your SCJP ASAP. I believe JAva and .NET are the waves of the future, so-to-say. I prefer Java because I believe it to be more likely to be on EVERY platform. And I know it, so, heh. Edward JS Prevost

Re: [nyphp-talk] unbelievable

2007-01-30 Thread CED
Interesting that you'd go with Python. I've focused on Java, only by cause of bias. (My Own that is. =D) Any other reasons you think Python should be taking up my loverly reading time? Edward JS Prevost II [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.EdwardPrevost.info - Original Message - From: "edward potter"

Re: [nyphp-talk] unbelievable

2007-01-30 Thread edward potter
Java seems to have a number of fits and starts over the last 10 years, but hanging on. Python can of course be used for all things web based, and can also create full blown applications too. (bittorrent for one), I'm still just a beginner. I have a friend that has been doing Java (and hating it

Re: [nyphp-talk] unbelievable

2007-01-30 Thread Randal Rust
On 1/30/07, edward potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To all my php buds. I hate to say this, but I have seen some recent CL posts for USA based, Graduate students with (as they quote) a number of years of php experience, that are billing at $10 an hour. The company that I work for, I think we

Re: [nyphp-talk] unbelievable

2007-01-30 Thread Aaron Fischer
I've had an intro procedural programming course that used Python and an object-oriented programming course that used Java. I've been using PHP at work for about four years. It seemed to me that Python was more similar to PHP than Java. Java seemed liked a different animal. That's sort of

Re: [nyphp-talk] unbelievable

2007-01-30 Thread edward potter
Python rocks, but for sure get some Java experience under your belt too. Good luck! :-) ed On 1/30/07, Aaron Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm taking an artificial intelligence class and we can do the assignments in Python, Java, or C++. I was leaning toward Java but your post makes me w

Re: [nyphp-talk] unbelievable

2007-01-30 Thread Aaron Fischer
I'm taking an artificial intelligence class and we can do the assignments in Python, Java, or C++. I was leaning toward Java but your post makes me want to lean toward Python. Hmmm... -Aaron On Jan 30, 2007, at 9:45 PM, edward potter wrote: So what am I doing? I am diving FULL blast int

Re: [nyphp-talk] unbelievable

2007-01-30 Thread edward potter
To all my php buds. I hate to say this, but I have seen some recent CL posts for USA based, Graduate students with (as they quote) a number of years of php experience, that are billing at $10 an hour. What was the straw that broke the camels back? The DIGG guys saying they built their ZILLION d

Re: [nyphp-talk] unbelievable

2007-01-30 Thread Josh McCormack
I think there's quite a bit of variety in the work you could expect from a PHP programmer. While I think $10/hour is really, really low, there are some positions that are just heads down, follow the instructions, who cares what the code looks like type. For these, I don't think pay in the $35k-55

Re: [nyphp-talk] unbelievable

2007-01-30 Thread CED
"Wow", is an understatement. Look at the tech outsourcing to Bombay and the salaries there sometime. Eventually US coders/Designers will be obsolete... sadly. Edward JS Prevost II [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.EdwardPrevost.info - Original Message - From: "Joseph Crawford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To

RE: [nyphp-talk] unbelievable

2007-01-30 Thread Timothy Boyden
Yeah this is exactly what I was talking about a couple months back when there was a discussion on the going rate for PHP programmers. I mean obviously they're not looking for an experienced PHP programmer (at least they shouldn't be at that rate, especially in New York City) they're just looking f

Re: [nyphp-talk] unbelievable

2007-01-30 Thread Paul
Right now there are 20 plus applicants from 3rd world nations with experience applying. Welcome to the new world order. Do you here the sucking sound Ross. On Jan 30, 2007, at 6:58 PM, Joseph Crawford wrote: Wow that is just amazing pretty funny that they would request that lol -- Jose

Re: [nyphp-talk] unbelievable

2007-01-30 Thread Joseph Crawford
Wow that is just amazing pretty funny that they would request that lol -- Joseph Crawford Jr. Zend Certified Engineer Codebowl Solutions, Inc. http://www.codebowl.com/ Blog: http://www.josephcrawford.com/ 1-802-671-2021 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ New York PHP

Re: [nyphp-talk] unbelievable

2007-01-30 Thread Jay
Wow. Wonder what qualifications you need to hit the high end of that payscale... On 1/30/07, michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/sad/270790501.html Candidates must have strong knowledge of Perl, PHP, HTML, XML, JavaScript, CGI, Apache, M

[nyphp-talk] unbelievable

2007-01-30 Thread michael
http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/sad/270790501.html Candidates must have strong knowledge of Perl, PHP, HTML, XML, JavaScript, CGI, Apache, MySQL, using standard, team-based web development practices. Salary: $7.00 to $10.00 per hour They forgot to ment