Re: [nyphp-talk] Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build websites instead of Java

2008-01-02 Thread Anirudh Zala
On Thursday 03 Jan 2008 04:39:26 Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote: > Jake McGraw wrote: > > Tim: > > > > You're not to fault, and the point about Java collections Vs array() is > > pretty good, unfortunately, I never made it that far because I was > > completely turned off by the "article", the exact te

Re: [nyphp-talk] Time Card / Scheduling Open Source Package

2008-01-02 Thread Keith Casey
On Jan 2, 2008 5:15 PM, Gary Mort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just about any project management software, such as BaseCamp, > ActiveCollab, or Project Pier has time tracking abilities. A bit biased on this one... former dotProject contributor and one of the founders of the new fork: web2project (

Re: [nyphp-talk] Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build websites instead of Java

2008-01-02 Thread Michael Southwell
Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote: Jake McGraw wrote: Tim: You're not to fault, and the point about Java collections Vs array() is pretty good, unfortunately, I never made it that far because I was completely turned off by the "article", the exact text Tim was referring to: James Anderson wrote:

Re: [nyphp-talk] Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build websites instead of Java

2008-01-02 Thread Elliotte Rusty Harold
Jake McGraw wrote: Tim: You're not to fault, and the point about Java collections Vs array() is pretty good, unfortunately, I never made it that far because I was completely turned off by the "article", the exact text Tim was referring to: James Anderson wrote: The really simple answer is t

Re: [nyphp-talk] Time Card / Scheduling Open Source Package

2008-01-02 Thread Gary Mort
Just about any project management software, such as BaseCamp, ActiveCollab, or Project Pier has time tracking abilities. Erik Baker wrote: Hello All, I need to create a low-level time card & scheduling application. It will track contract employee hours, produce reports & time cards, and all

Re: [nyphp-talk] Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build websites instead of Java

2008-01-02 Thread JJainschigg
Neither - cool kids use Torx wrenches. (grin) John Jainschigg Director, Online Technology and New Business, Software Group Executive Director, CMP Metaverse CMP Technology, LLC 600 Community Drive Manhasset, New York 11030 Instant Message to: AIM: jjainschigg MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sky

Re: [nyphp-talk] Time Card / Scheduling Open Source Package

2008-01-02 Thread Jake McGraw
Sounds pretty specific, how do you plan on utilizing PHP? Certainly not for interfacing with the card reading hardware, perhaps providing a web based system for administrators? As far as I know, the client side software should be provided with whatever hardware has been purchased (card readers, etc

Re: [nyphp-talk] Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build websites instead of Java

2008-01-02 Thread Gary Mort
So that is what I was doing wrong! No wonder the computer service reps keep telling me I voided my warranty when I added a hard drive to the system. Kristina Anderson wrote: Next I trust we can look forward to a bracing discussion on why "cool kids" use Phillips screwdrivers instead of blowto

[nyphp-talk] Time Card / Scheduling Open Source Package

2008-01-02 Thread Erik Baker
Hello All, I need to create a low-level time card & scheduling application. It will track contract employee hours, produce reports & time cards, and allow scheduling of contract employees. This is for contract employees who work in the entertainment field, so forms for director sign-off will be

Re: [nyphp-talk] Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build websites instead of Java

2008-01-02 Thread Kristina Anderson
Next I trust we can look forward to a bracing discussion on why "cool kids" use Phillips screwdrivers instead of blowtorches to open their computer cases? -- Kristina > Tim Gales wrote: > > Thought this might be of interest: > > http://php.sys-con.com/read/457324.htm > > > > James Anderson writ

Re: [nyphp-talk] Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build websites instead of Java

2008-01-02 Thread Gary Mort
Tim Gales wrote: Thought this might be of interest: http://php.sys-con.com/read/457324.htm James Anderson writes (in his response to the article): The really simple answer is that after the release of php 5, php became the better language... I wasn't aware that PHP was the cool language. I

Re: [nyphp-talk] Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build websites instead of Java

2008-01-02 Thread Felix Shnir
Jeez, whats up with all the Java hating today? First, LUG, now PHP list. This article is a useless rant and indeed a waste of bandwidth, but the constant Java sux in this and PHP rules in that conversation is a lot more annoying simply because it is an irrelevant flame war. This is a PHP list, le

Re: [nyphp-talk] Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build websites instead of Java

2008-01-02 Thread David Krings
I found this article also a waste of bandwidth. What is even more sad than the contents (or the lack thereof) is that the writer couldn't answer the question he put out. I started learning Java and got reminded at my dreadful experiences with C. Java inherited all the crappy, annoying stuff from

RE: [nyphp-talk] Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build websites instead of Java

2008-01-02 Thread Anthony Wlodarski
This article was funny and yet sad... I thoroughly enjoyed the Ajax world popup that crashed my I.E. when I clicked on 'close this window'. When we were evaluating on how to build our internal apps a big part of the decision came on how we would continue support on the back end we decided to go a

Re: [nyphp-talk] Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build websites instead of Java

2008-01-02 Thread Kenneth Downs
Jake McGraw wrote: Tim: You're not to fault, and the point about Java collections Vs array() is pretty good, unfortunately, I never made it that far because I was completely turned off by the "article", the exact text Tim was referring to: James Anderson wrote: The really simple answer is t

Re: [nyphp-talk] Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build websites instead of Java

2008-01-02 Thread Jake McGraw
Tim: You're not to fault, and the point about Java collections Vs array() is pretty good, unfortunately, I never made it that far because I was completely turned off by the "article", the exact text Tim was referring to: James Anderson wrote: The really simple answer is that after the release of

Re: [nyphp-talk] Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build websites instead of Java

2008-01-02 Thread Ben Sgro
Right on, I read that and was, woah, when does the article start...looking for a link the "page 2 >>" trash. Tim Gales wrote: Thought this might be of interest: http://php.sys-con.com/read/457324.htm James Anderson writes (in his response to the article): The really simple answer is that

Re: [nyphp-talk] Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build websites instead of Java

2008-01-02 Thread Tim Gales
Jake McGraw wrote: Pure flame-bait and total non-article sorry, I thought the part about Java's multitudinous specialty "collection" classes versus using an 'Array()' type which is simpler and faster was a valid point -- my mistake. -- T. Gales & Associates 'Helping People Connect with Techn

Re: [nyphp-talk] Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build websites instead of Java

2008-01-02 Thread Kenneth Downs
Agreed, content-free. Lots of ads. Jake McGraw wrote: Pure flame-bait and total non-article used to drive traffic to sys-con.com . Not worth a glance IMO. - jake On Jan 2, 2008 11:11 AM, Tim Gales < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Thought this

Re: [nyphp-talk] Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build websites instead of Java

2008-01-02 Thread Jake McGraw
Pure flame-bait and total non-article used to drive traffic to sys-con.com. Not worth a glance IMO. - jake On Jan 2, 2008 11:11 AM, Tim Gales < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thought this might be of interest: > http://php.sys-con.com/read/457324.htm > > James Anderson writes (in his response to th

[nyphp-talk] Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build websites instead of Java

2008-01-02 Thread Tim Gales
Thought this might be of interest: http://php.sys-con.com/read/457324.htm James Anderson writes (in his response to the article): The really simple answer is that after the release of php 5, php became the better language... -- T. Gales & Associates 'Helping People Connect with Technology'

RE: [nyphp-talk] OT: MidwestSource??

2008-01-02 Thread Anthony Wlodarski
Also try the NYPHPJobs mailing list. Good resource if you got talent and people want to share the workload with your organization. Anthony Wlodarski Shulman Fleming & Partners 646-285-0500 x230 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Beha

Re: [nyphp-talk] OT: MidwestSource??

2008-01-02 Thread Deeþan Chakravarthy
Thomas O'Neill wrote: First off I want to apologize for the blatant solicitation. I have been actively following this list for about 4 years and have found the discussion on all things web development related an outstanding resource. The group has great participation and members that often p