Re: [nyphp-talk] In hind sight

2009-02-05 Thread Elijah Insua
Michele, just as a suggestion for the future.. could you keep all of these in the same thread? Thanks, -- Elijah 2009/2/5 Peter Sawczynec > Sigh. > > > > Warmest regards, > > > > Peter Sawczynec > > Technology Dir. > > blūstudio > > 941.893.0396 > > p...@blu-studio.com > > www.blu-studio.co

Re: [nyphp-talk] In hind sight

2009-02-05 Thread Peter Sawczynec
Sigh. Warmest regards, Peter Sawczynec Technology Dir. blūstudio 941.893.0396 p...@blu-studio.com www.blu-studio.com From: talk-boun...@lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.nyphp.org] On Behalf Of Michele Waldman Sent: Thursday, February 0

[nyphp-talk] In hind sight

2009-02-05 Thread Michele Waldman
In hind sight, I could have used mod_auth_mysql just as well as mod_auth_digest/mysql using htaccess the way I do now. Duh! But, it's considered more secure. So, no loss. ___ New York PHP User Group Community Talk Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.or

[nyphp-talk] mod_auth_digest/mysql

2009-02-05 Thread Michele Waldman
Guys, The site's going live around 8p.m. using the variation of mod_auth_digest authenticating against mysql, that I wrote/modified, today. Pretty exciting. I didn't disturb its general behavior. It still behaves like mod_auth_digest. And the browsers, well, they still behave like they do t

Re: [nyphp-talk] PHP Compared to Cold Fusion

2009-02-05 Thread Brian Dailey
I know a guy that's managing a company running on CF and he very much wishes that he had gone with PHP or even Python. The availability of developers to work with CF is much more limited. -b. csnyder wrote: 2009/2/5 Peter Sawczynec : Anybody got other techie reasons why CF would pale compar

[nyphp-talk] TestFest and PHP QA at NYPHP

2009-02-05 Thread Hans Zaunere
All, We're considering working with the PHP QA group and supporting a Test Fest event, both in the virtual world, and the real-world of NYC. Here are overviews: http://qa.php.net/testfest.php - the What http://wiki.php.net/qa/testfest - the How Getting involved with this would greatly benefit P

Re: [nyphp-talk] PHP Compared to Cold Fusion

2009-02-05 Thread Justin Dearing
2009/2/5 Peter Sawczynec > My first toe in of a sales pitch is already over. > > In this SW Florida area where I am there is a surprising amount of CFM > in dynamic web sites. And, then a surprising amount of .NET. Well I am working at my second primarily.NET shop that was originally a coldfusi

[nyphp-talk] CFM Downsides from Wikipedia CFM Article

2009-02-05 Thread Peter Sawczynec
Technical commentary IT commentators have offered various critiques of ColdFusion, discussing both the potential advantages and disadvantages of this technology relative to other alternatives. * Bootstrapping: ColdFusion is not a general purpose programming language. It cannot be used to crea

Re: [nyphp-talk] PHP Compared to Cold Fusion

2009-02-05 Thread Ricky Robinett
Hey Peter, I'm prefacing this by saying I love PHP and it is my language of choice, but I also have extensive experience with ColdFusion and I don't feel like all your statements about it are completely accurate (also playing devil's advocate a bit :) ). 1) From my experience, ColdFusion devel

Re: [nyphp-talk] PHP Compared to Cold Fusion

2009-02-05 Thread Peter Sawczynec
My first toe in of a sales pitch is already over. In this SW Florida area where I am there is a surprising amount of CFM in dynamic web sites. And, then a surprising amount of .NET. I have to tell you, the area is very uninformed about opensource. In my initial discussions with people regarding

Re: [nyphp-talk] PHP Compared to Cold Fusion

2009-02-05 Thread Ben Sgro
Hey, We are moving away from CF. Finding talent is difficult, and what can be done in CF can be done CLEANER in a different languages. I'm speaking to the this syntax. CF does have some nice PDF abilities and has been using "binded" queries for a long time. It is more $ because of the cf se

Re: [nyphp-talk] PHP Compared to Cold Fusion

2009-02-05 Thread csnyder
2009/2/5 Peter Sawczynec : > Anybody got other techie reasons why CF would pale compared to PHP say > in raw speed, etc. > Raw speed, heh. The list of extensions, both integrated and pecl, puts PHP way out in front of CF in terms of versatility and functionality.

Re: [nyphp-talk] PHP Compared to Cold Fusion

2009-02-05 Thread Guilherme Blanco
I'm curious... Do anyone still code in CF? Like... company just starting... new application etc... I doubt that guy still exists on earth... =) Cheers, 2009/2/5 Peter Sawczynec : > Good Day All: > > Can anyone in their long experience of coding in numerous languages > enumerate some of the

[nyphp-talk] PHP Compared to Cold Fusion

2009-02-05 Thread Peter Sawczynec
Good Day All: Can anyone in their long experience of coding in numerous languages enumerate some of the pros and cons of Cold Fusion (CF, CFML) especially when compared to PHP. My basic thoughts are that CF: 1) is more expensive to program ($$ per hr. pd. to programmer) 2) not as simply and total